Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Also have to love the “logic” behind continuing to demean anyone who took a wait and see approach regarding sending their kids back to school in the fall while taking the wait and see approach vaccinating his kids. Regardless of what studies he’ll continue to cite, there is no possible way data could have been collected on school transmissions by sept considering schools had been closed since March. But yeah, no hypocrisy there at all...

 

So, for example, if you want to see the proper utilization of the term "lockdown," here is one from the BBC on Turkey entering a lockdown. No trips outside except urgent medical care or essential shopping trips. Official approval required for all travel.

So, in the US, I don't think there have been many instances in which I wasn't allowed to drive or walk around the streets without a reason for doing so. That is the difference between a lockdown and a variety of other orders.

Covid: Turkey enters first full lockdown

 

Yes, from covid we do. The fantasy in your head doesn't change the reality of it. There were ~520k more deaths in 2020 than 2019. I know you want to think they all died of suicide due to the 'lockdowns', but suicides actually declined in 2020. The vast majority of those excess deaths in 2020 were due to covid. Add in the the covid deaths from 2021 and we are easily above 500k covid deaths.

 

LOL. So because he doesn't say the term "lockdown" but shuts down schools, businesses, churches, parks and beaches means CA didn't lockdown? LOL. This is why i have so much fun with you. You keep digging yourself deeper and deeper. Every rational person calls what CA did a Lockdown.

Newsom's COVID-19 briefings often leave more questions than answers, some officials say

I'm sure Gov Lockdown is just a fun nickname LOL. Keep up the fight! So funny.

 

LOL. Turkey doing a bang up job. Just because Turkey locked down harder than CA doesn't mean CA didn't lock down. Good ole lib logic. Here is a quick update on how Turkey is doing...

 

The vast majority isn't ALL. Thanks for proving me right. Appreciate it. Roughly about half of the deaths in the US was due to Covid. Unfortunately we can't good data because the CDC screwed the pooch on that one. Any other questions?

 

They haven't even started yet (well, I guess evening in Turkey started maybe an hour or two ago, so yeah). Maybe read the article...

To a greater point, you just did a good job of demonstrating an endogenous selection variable, which is that lockdowns tend to only happen in countries or other locales with rapidly expanding cases.

 

A couple on this board...one in particular absolutely unloaded on anyone not getting the vax for any reason.
Does that equal half the country? No idea, but the number did not matter to those people. They lumped EVERYONE in.

 

The literature considers each of those different policies. A lockdown is the inability to leave the house for any reason. School shut downs, business shut downs, and public space shut downs are handled differently and evaluated separately as policies by scientists studying the issues.

More specifically, you made a claim that he called it that, and your evidence doesn't back that claim, so it is a false claim as of now without evidence proving the claim to be accurate.

 

There is this little place called Europe that we had plenty of data from to go on. But good try.

 

I don’t live in Europe and neither do my kids. But good try.

 

I have a friend in eastern Europe, they had to get approval for travel to go to their dentist a while back. That is a lockdown.

 

LOL. Keep going. I enjoy this. So because Newsom doesn't use the term lockdown but did everything that a lockdown entails means he didn't lockdown CA. So awesome. Here's that right wing bastion the NYT saying CA locked down.

California Will Impose Its Strongest Virus Measures Since the Spring

"California, the first state to impose far-reaching lockdowns because of the coronavirus, announced on Thursday its strictest new measures since the earliest days of the pandemic in an effort to keep a surge in cases from overwhelming hospitals."

 

What were the other 250,000 deaths from?

 

That makes no sense. Good effort at trying to make the data from Europe as useless. Didn't work though.

 

You're just making stuff up. The official CDC number for covid deaths is currently at 558k . But you've decided it's actually only half that based on nothing but because that's just what you want to believe.

And you're always talking about covid deaths that weren't actually covid deaths due to misclassification. But you never mention the opposite -- deaths from covid that weren't classified as such due a lack of testing, especially early on. In the months of Jan, Feb, and March 2020, there were a total of 32,000 more deaths in 2020 than there were for those same 3 months in 2019. CDC has 7,000 deaths for those 3 months due to covid. So there were 25k more deaths that weren't classified covid deaths in those 3 months than in 2019. The lack of sufficient covid testing continued through May. Tens of thousands of covid deaths occurred that aren't classified as covid due to lack of testing.

 

Increases in drug overdoses, Cancer, Heart disease, Dimentia/Alzheimer's, murder, car accidents. Mine is a very rough guess. The reason we are guessing is because the numbers put out from the CDC aren't true. They now admit it when they only want to investigate covid cases from the vaccines with a PCR threshold of under 28. Ask yourself why are they doing that. It's because they know anything over 30 is complete garbage and not active virus. So why are we still using a threshold of 40 for a regular PCR test?

 

Well we know it wasn't suicides, as 95 wanted to believe. Suicides went down:
CDC: Suicides decreased in 2020

 

LOL. You keep believing everything you read. CDC now requires a threshold of 28 or under for a PCR test when testing ONLY for covid vaccine patients. Why is that? Why aren't they using the 40 threshold that is still standard for every other covid test in the US? You keep talking in circles. Jan and Feb 2020 Covid wasn't hardly in the US. But hey, keep believing every death in the US is covid's fault. You seem well on your way to believing that.

 

Who specifically are you talking about?