Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Won’t apologize for caring about children while you and others continue to defend the indefensible. It’s sick. But par for the course for some.

 

Hit and miss. Most businesses require it but people ignore and certainly a lot of people are having massive parties for Christmas or whatever. Community spread is def bad, we were maxed out in icu cases a couple of weeks ago but not sure about today.
I had posted earlier that they doubled substitute teacher pay in next county over because they were running out of teachers.
The sub need in Cobb is very high (my wife gets the notices).
Some of the same people bitching about virtual school are the science deniers that won’t wear a mask or stop throwing parties.
One of the most egregious party throwers thought to start a donation page on FB for the teacher that just died and she was roasted on FB, with some saying she contributed to the death. The teacher was very popular and it got ugly.

 

In sum of the most recent engagements 1. You never addressed your misrepresentation of what I wrote when I quoted the McGill study; 2. You never addressed your misrepresentation of the WHO position on testing cycles even after to was quoted in the text of the post; 3 You never addressed the substance of the McGill statement or its consistency with the WHO position; 4. You ignored the link to the Brown study on multi state spread of trackers for in person versus remote learning: 5. You never addressed the CDC position On infection with children, or the finding that viral load in kids is the same as in adults; 6. You offer no constrict to explain why the virus would not spread among children in schools or to teachers; 7. You refuse to acknowledge @SeabudGator’s statement that you misrepresented his position; and 8. You ignored your misrepresentation that posters at the beginning of the thread were wrong about the virus because the Chinese lied about the spread.

 

1. No misrepresentation
2. No misrepresentation
3. Deflection
4. Brown study doesn’t prove that
5. CDC has put out some awful studies so far during Covid(Kansas for example) so I’m not naive enough to believe everything I read like some on here.
6. Yes I have you just choose to ignore them.

Here is a new one. There are plenty others out there as well, but you and the lemmings choose to ignore them. Keep being on the wrong side of science. Finally we have Illinois and NY starting to follow Florida’s lead from 9 months ago. Better late than never. Now they just need to tell the unions to get back to work or find new teachers.


Prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Children and Their Parents in Southwest Germany

 

Too much risk. Sadly, teachers are exposed to viral load on a confined Space and they are there all day. They are Not just moving on to the next indoor space. And most teachers can’t get vaccinated under CDC and state guidelines now. The agenda is to vaccinate older people because of the death statistics, but that doesn’t change the risk to any acre group who can’t get vaccinated. Front line folks are being put on an alter of risk, but the pathetic vaccine roll out has just increased spread and sickness across the board. Emblematic of the departed administration

 

Did you read the study? The study was conducted during a lockdown.

 

These paint a pretty clear picture of how to fight this virus. There is no doubt that lockdowns don't work. Maybe some will learn but I'm smart enough to know most will keep their head in the sand.

 

yes, thanks captain obvious.

 

Do you understand that lockdowns reduce community spread? And that a study in a lockdown doesn’t measure the conditions in open schools. And did you note the otter limitations, including the selection process?

 

I posted this a while back. It's like some of you just don't read or don't care. Head in the sand syndrome I guess.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2026670?query=TOC

 

The Effects of School Reopenings on COVID-19 Hospitalizations | REACH

I guess I have to keep posting data since some on here keep having their heads in the sand. I know a few admitted a while back that they were wrong, but most didn't. Sad.

 

I guess you can only care for one group at a time in your dichromatic world? One could care about teachers and kids, you know. Hell, maybe even have a plan where teachers don't have to die doing their job and give them the tools to do it. Nah, most on the right would rather talk about the poor kids while underfunding schools, not giving them the resources, bringing more guns into school, not funding remote learning, and telling teachers that dying is part of their job - it is so much fun to offer criticism of others and no solutions!

And the best part is that after shitting on the whole system, one can self righteously assert that anyone who disagrees with them "doesn't care about children" - just to dumb down the discussion and despite them offering no solutions, indeed opposing them in this case by under resourcing public education.

 

That study measures severe COVID transmission among school children by the admission of children into ICU units and it says that the 95% confidence intervals are wide due to the absence of transmission information. It does not measure transmission between or among students and to teachers or others in the community. And your insults are tiresome. Posting how smart you are and how people have their heads in the sand is just wearying to read.

 

You guys carry on, but I'll just point out that it is foolhardy to compare virus spread rates in high population density areas with those in low population density areas.

Those is lower density areas should be much lower especially where there is some reasonable portion of the population following CDC guidelines on masks, social distancing and cleaning.

 

My sister is a teacher, but good effort on your part...

Stop with the partisanship. It's embarrassing. You don't care about kids, that much is true. IF it were dangerous for teachers to be teaching, then i'd be up for remote learning. But teaching isn't any more dangerous than any other job where you come in contact with people. The sooner you learn that the better.

 

No. How about reading the CDC guidelines that involve things like testing, tracking, and tracing. You know the things our last president REFUSED to do. Throwing up the school doors is not even what the article you cited suggested. It was based on county wide cases being below a minimum. But keep presenting this as a simpleton answer (which it is not) and presenting it as totally safe (which the studies say it is not) and keep lying about how the issue here is liberals wanting to hurt kids and teachers not wanting to work.

 

The good ol' Unions moving the goalposts so their teachers don't have to do their jobs.

 

Actually, what is happening in Cobb County is scary. If you are in a room for hours with someone who is shedding virus, that is far more dangerous than dropping off food or working at a grocery where someone passes by. The former increases the chances of a higher viral load

 

When did you stop molesting kids, right? Has as much evidence as me not "caring about kids." If you do not have facts or logic, attack the other side. Comments such as this prove you are not worth any time.
"Ignore"

 

Three studies highlight low COVID risk of in-person school

I can do this all day.

Stop with the scare tactics, it's not more dangerous. Kids don't spread it like adults. We've been over this countless times.