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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. gator95

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    Definitely on a downward trend across the country.
     
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  2. mutz87

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    This is alarming. I am curious about what other doctors are seeing across the country.
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    Post-COVID lungs worse than the worst smokers' lungs, surgeon says


    A Texas trauma surgeon says it's rare that X-rays from any of her COVID-19 patients come back without dense scarring. Dr. Brittany Bankhead-Kendall tweeted, "Post-COVID lungs look worse than any type of terrible smoker's lung we've ever seen. And they collapse. And they clot off. And the shortness of breath lingers on... & on... & on."

    She says patients who've had COVID-19 symptoms show a severe chest X-ray every time, and those who were asymptomatic show a severe chest X-ray 70% to 80% of the time.

    "There are still people who say 'I'm fine. I don't have any issues,' and you pull up their chest X-ray and they absolutely have a bad chest X-ray," she said.
     
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  3. gator95

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    I have a bit of a problem with what is being said here. From a person who has had collapsed lung to the point of surgery and then contracted a disease which really did a number on my lungs, I see little chance a person with severe damage to their lungs does not realize the difference and would say they don't have any issues.
     
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  6. mutz87

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    I hear you. Might it be that patients have been lying to her or her colleagues about how they feel?

    By the way, the link was just one of the first I found but patients lying to physicians is something I've heard about for decades.
     
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  7. buckeyegator

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    more positive numbers for people to take as they will. hospitalizations at 116,264 down 3700 from yesterday,10th straight day, lowest since december 21st. 6th straight day with less than 200,000 new positives, cases down 35% since the high of 308,000 on january 8th.
     
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  9. SeabudGator

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    Had a little time before hoops game and found the below. People who need to reconsider their choice of news sources.


    These go on and on and I'm sure people will say "nobody knew." But they did - the experts did know of the danger and 400,000 American deaths later we do too.

    The nonsense of minimizing this (hoax or just the flu), laymen arguing with experts, politicizing it ("to attack trump"), believing some hack conservative doctor who is not an epidemiologist, BS "cures" - all of it is politicizing what was a social, medical, and scientific question. With about 4% of the world population, the US has about 20% of covid mortality.

    Should be food for thought as to where folks get their information and whom and what we believe.
     
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  10. PITBOSS

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    why is the damage so bad?
     
  11. vaxcardinal

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    Food for thought? Can’t even eat out in a restaurant
     
  12. SeabudGator

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    Sit outside! Uber eats? If there is a will to avoid cooking, there is a way!

    @gator95 gave a "Come on Man". What is wrong with asking why people were SO unbelievably wrong? When I am wrong, I try to figure out why. Did I miss some facts? Was my logic faulty? If folks care more about being right or their political view than lives, what is to be said?
     
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  13. vaxcardinal

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    I said eat at a restaurant, not eat restaurant food. Pay attention
     
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  14. SeabudGator

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    Sit outside is not "eating out at a restaurant?" Hmmm, wonder why my waiter is pouring me a beer now?
     
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    Probably because you live in a state where restaurants have been open for a while
     
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    So he is eating at a restaurant.

    Pay attention.
     
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  17. gator95

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    Ok, let’s play this game. Why were you and others so wrong on insisting schools being closed? You and others were tremendously wrong wrong in the belief that schools should be closed. See, this is easy to play armchair QB. The reason most people were wrong early on is because China was lying about their Covid numbers. If you can’t see that then that shows your partisanship.
     
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    Let's play another game: why don't you try telling the truth about what the discussions were in the early days of the thread? For a change.

    It starts by reading. And, actually addressing what was said in the conteaxt of what was said.

    You did not, and made up the China comment. Simply not truthful.

    So, go back and read the thread from the beginning and you will see that the reason those posters were wrong had nothing to do with China.

    That by then, the virus had exploded in Italy.

    And, here is the CDC on schools, since you are diverting from the subject.

    Our national policy is: take your chances.

    COVID-19 and Your Health

    • The true incidence of COVID-19 in children is not known due to lack of widespread testing and the prioritization of testing for adults and those with severe illness. Recent evidence suggests that compared to adults, children likely have similar viral loads in their noses and throats and can spread the virus to others. This webpage contains information and checklists for parents, guardians, and caregivers to help them make decisions about their children attending in-person school during the COVID-19 pandemic. Parents, guardians, and caregivers can assess the risk of contracting the virus that causes COVID-19 and of developing severe illness from COVID-19 for their child, for themselves, and for other household members. They can also assess the needs of their children and household to determine which of the available learning formats is the best option.
    It is important to understand how to avoid getting sick when any household member participates in in-person activities, including in-person learning. Because children can spread the virus that causes COVID-19 to others, parents, guardians, and caregivers should consider whether their child(ren) or other household members are at increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19 when making decisions about in-person school and other activities. If a household includes someone who is at increased risk for severe illness, then all household members should act as if they, themselves, are at increased risk.
     
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  19. duchen

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    Because kids get it, but don't get tested because cases are milder and they have kid immune systems that handle novel diseases because all are. And they spread it.
     
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    The poster I was responding to has a weird agenda, not sure what it is but he seems overly offended about some schools being shut down.
    He asked for a study showing teachers got infected at a higher (with a “I’ll wait” after), but when I posted up a study, he went silent.
    If we could put our kids back in school here, it wouldn’t do any good, we don’t have any teachers.
    Another cobb county teacher died last week, this one from our school.
     
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