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Violent thugs and hooligans brutally attack police officers in D.C.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by orangeblue_coop, Jan 6, 2021.

  1. DoubleDown11

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  2. WC53

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    Cotton and Rubio going with the tweets against Cruz and Hawley today..lol... I would like to say they found a spine, but 2024 is more like it
     
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  3. Gator715

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    Ya'll loathe Republicans.

    Every good act and every act that you agree with is badly motivated.
     
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    You have Steve Bannon and his troll army whipping up the “Stop the Steal” nuts online. You have Trump hyping up this rally to these same nuts for weeks. The rally was apparently right up the street from congress. Guys literally showed up with Jan 6 2021 Civil War shirts. At the rally, Trump tells them they must march to congress and can’t be weak, must be strong.

    You are seriously pretending Trump didn’t incite those riots? LOL. These weren’t just random comments that nobody reacted to. It was a mob that Trump organized. This is clearly what Trump hoped for, and in his deluded mind he probably thought it would help him “win” somehow.
     
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  5. rivergator

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    Maybe you can find the thread with those comments and bring it back to show the hypocrisy you claim.
     
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  6. wgbgator

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    Its pretty clear to anyone reading that statement and understanding the context that he wanted people to storm the capital and do something. Whether you think that qualifies as a advocating a violent act or not hardly makes a difference in terms of inciting something.
     
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  7. Gator715

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    Looks like a peaceful protest rally by an angry Trump that got out of control. Looks like he was calling for people to be angry.

    Trump only knows how to raise the temperature, he doesn't know how to calm people down.

    He explicitly called on Twitter for the protests to be peaceful.

    He just doesn't seem to have a sense for when the room is already so angry he has to shut up because things are about to spiral out of control.
     
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  8. Gator715

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    Protest legally outside the Capitol, not necessarily invade the Capitol and trespass.
     
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    Hey look, you and I are going to agree. Because I don't think the speech was anything over the top. It just happened to be the spark that ignited 16 months of gaslighting from Trump.
     
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  10. wgbgator

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    They were already doing that. So you think the intent of his speech was "keep doing what you are doing" when he said you need to fight harder and not show weakness and go cheer them on?
     
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    Did Maxine Waters ever whip a crowd into a frenzy and send them to sack the Capitol? I can't seem to find that in the google machine.

    Also, you seem to keep returning to whataboutism, as if that somehow justifies what we saw yesterday.
     
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  12. Gator715

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    People didn't need to hear an angry Trump speech to make them angrier based on the false premise that this election was stolen.

    We agree, there.
     
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    Trial by combat. Go over to the Capitol and I’m going with you. Be strong. You can’t be weak. Then as they are storming the Capitol he’s tweeting about the stolen election.

    That’s prototypical incitement. And I know your plan it to play it down, so just stop right now. Because the reports are that even when the Capitol was overrun, he refused to send in the DC National Guard because he was proud of what he did. Rather, it was Pence who, without actual authority, ordered them in.

    This is the behavior of a megalomaniac authoritarian, not a President.
     
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  14. channingcrowderhungry

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    Agreed. If you flew to DC to go to a Trump rally at this point you know what you're about.
     
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    So at the very least, he's guilty of not calming down a frothed up crowd ready to do what they did of their own accord. And your exculpating factor is that he is a bad leader incapable of doing basic human tasks like saying "keep cool." Or failing that, even admitting defeat in an election he lost by 7 million votes.
     
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    Must have been another one of them Antifa types

    West Virginia Lawmaker Among Those Who Stormed U.S. Capitol
     
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    People love saying whattaboutism every time you point out hypocrisy. Not once have I justified the events from yesterday. Not once, I have condemned them repeatedly. Yet, you dishonestly claim that I am defending them.

    What I am doing is pointing out the faux outrage from many on this thread and many in the media after apparently living under a rock for the last year.

    She didn't send them to sack the Capitol, but since when is that the arbitrary line where things go too far? You mean to say if it's, say, a small business it would be fine?

    You want Maxine Waters whipping a crowd into a frenzy? Here you go.

     
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    Facebook and Instagram just announced they've blocked Trump indefinitely.
     
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    That is garbage. He was tweeting about it for days. His supporters came wearing shirts that said Civil War. There are supporters that went to the Capitol with plastic ties and firearms, with the hope of taking hostages. This is why he fired Esper and installed more loyalists.

    This was an insurrection against a coordinate branch of government by incited and planned by the President of the United States. Stop it. Just stop it. He is a disgrace the likes of which we haven’t seen since Jefferson Davis.
     
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    And yet he still has the nuclear codes and the pardon power, but he can’t be trusted with a smartphone.
     
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