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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. gator95

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    Yet another article on the disaster of the US keeping schools closed. Nothing like playing politics with our children’s education. The not following science is only useful for one side I guess...

    Why British Kids Went Back to School, and American Kids Did Not

    “A study by the Center on Reinventing Public Education estimated that only 8 percent of U.S. urban school districts had returned to full in-person instruction in November. Outside the inner cities, only 22 percent of U.S. suburban school districts were running in-person schooling, and only 64 percent of rural districts.”
     
  2. AzCatFan

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    So the state is currently at 93% ICU capacity, and the current trend is 150% capacity in less than 4 weeks if nothing is done. And you think this is OK? Or this is normal, just like any year? Please explain.
     
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  3. RIP

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    Yikes.
     
  4. WC53

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    What is normal ICU capacity
     
  5. AzCatFan

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    In Arizona, hard to find numbers. But a prior link said 90% is nowhere near normal. And this link states the 88% ICU capacity back in June was an Arizona state record. 90% > 88%.

    Then there is this link, which shows average yearly hospital capacity, which is usually around 66% - 70%. Arizona, like Florida, would be higher in the winter, since the state is a winter destination for tourists and part-time, snowbird residents. But as the first link said, 88% was a record in the state back in June, that aid Arizona just broke in December.
     
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  6. G8trGr8t

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    No ICU beds in N Bama. The system is being overwhelmed
     
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  7. oragator1

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    My aunt’s companion is 90, lives in a nursing home in hard hit Iowa. Miraculously he got it and is recovering, but 12 people in his nursing home died.
     
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  8. RIP

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    I have a friend that has a 10 year old son that just died in New York. Spent a month in the hospital in complete misery before he died.
     
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  9. G8trGr8t

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    so sorry to hear that
     
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    Yeah it's pretty freaking terrible.
     
  11. flgator2

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    This is like the flu in the way it spreads and has a lot of the same symptoms, some have worse reactions than others. So once again the answer is yes. They had a local doctor from UF on the Bob Rose show and he said the same, no matter what they've died from if they tested for covid that's what the cause of death was listed for then. This has already been proven across the US. Nobody claiming that covid isn't killing people but our experts are inflating the numbers when people death from other reason are classified as covid related.
     
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  12. flgator2

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    My wife and daughter both tested positive around Thanksgiving. My daughter didn't have any reaction but was required by UF to self quarantine which she did. My wife had a very minor cough, loss of smell along with a couple of days of fatigue and she was back to normal, her words like a very mild cold.
    I also got tested at the same time but my results came back negative even though I had the same symptoms as my wife, we also self quarantine. Both of my son's never got tested even tough they both had fever's for a couple of hours along a slight body ache since they were already in quarantine. So most likely we all had it or dare I say the Flu. Either way our reaction was very minor, we had no reason to need a doctor or treatments, saved that for those who do. Thanks for your concern it sounded really sincere
     
  13. PITBOSS

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    It’s now well a given that Covid is NOT “like the flu”. This is another ignorant post. Note there are never links or basis for these nutty claims. Probably picked up on extreme far right wing web sites.
     
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  14. flgator2

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    California Has Some Of The Strictest Restrictions In The U.S., Yet COVID-19 Is Surging | The Daily Wire
    It’s almost as if lockdowns do nothing to stop the spread of the coronavirus.

    California has some of the nation’s strictest restrictions when it comes to COVID-19, yet it is one of America’s epicenters for the virus, Politico reported. The state has at times instituted “a complete ban on restaurant dining to travel quarantines and indoor gym closures.”

    “America’s most populous state has become one of the nation’s worst epicenters for the disease, setting new records for cases, hospitalizations and deaths almost every day. Things are so bad in Southern California that some patients are being treated in hospital tents, while doctors have begun discussing whether they need to ration care,” the outlet reported.

    To date, California has had 2.06 million known confirmed cases of coronavirus and 23,964 deaths in a population of 39.51 million. To put that in perspective, New York has had 909,000 confirmed cases and 36,739 deaths (24,889 deaths in New York City alone) in a population of 19.45 million. Florida, which has been under attack from the media for its handling of the pandemic because the state has a Republican governor who hasn’t taken unconstitutional and extreme measures to lock down the state, has seen 1.25 million confirmed cases and 20,994 deaths in a population of 21.48 million.

    “Nationally, there has been a kaleidoscopic application of every imaginable type of lockdown order with California being the most restrictive and inflicting the most devastation on small businesses and the most economically vulnerable service workers. And still, we are none the better as far as COVID is concerned,” Condie told the outlet in a statement. “In fact in L.A. where indoor and outdoor dining are completely shut down, with indoor dining [closed] since July, the virus rages on.”

    Not surprising at all
     
  15. dingyibvs

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    Restrictions aren't meant to prevent fluctuations in infections unless you've got a Wuhan-style quarantine, it's merely meant to mitigate the effects.

    California, considering it's population, is doing quite well. Neither its case per population nor its deaths per population is anywhere near the top in the country.
     
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  16. philnotfil

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    In per capita cases California is ranked 34th (Florida is 27th). 40th in deaths (Florida is 21st, curious that we move up so much and they move down so much).
     
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  17. gatordavisl

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    You nailed it. Sure enough . . .
     
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  18. RIP

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    It is like the flu in the way that every single other respiratory virus is like the flu. That's about it.
     
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  20. ncargat1

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    I do not care what people believe, who they trust, what they choose to do. I DO NOT wish anyone illness or death. I most certainly would not hope/wish/celebrate you, your wife and children becoming ill, whether just the sniffles or worse. Even when I lose my temper, behave poorly and make snarky comments, I most definitely, sincerely wish everyone to not be infected, and certainly recover easily if they do get infected.
     
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