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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. gator95

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    Well, we can judge the places that locked down longer versus the places that didn’t and see if there is a correlation or not.
     
  2. RealGatorFan

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    Well, Japan is studying extremely high suicides among women in their country since the Pandemic began and they haven't had to lockdown. They are the only country in the world to track suicide data in real-time and in the month of October alone, there were more suicides than total Covid deaths since the Pandemic began. If they can be stressed out enough to commit the rate they are seeing, you can correlate that to almost any country, including the US. Many of the reasons why suicides are high are due to the very issues of the economy. Women who lose their jobs or have to take care of kids who are at home is a major reason. Closing schools may slow down the Pandemic, but it creates its own set of problems - isolation, fear, domestic abuse, etc. Teenagers are one of the demographics seeing a huge spike in extreme stress due to not being in school. They have more homework to deal with, and with little to no guidance from teachers. Teachers can only do so much remotely.

    My son struggled this 1st semester as a senior. Playing football took away precious time in his studies, requiring him to pull all niters to stay just above failing. Once football ended, he's been spending about 10 hours a day catching up and should finish with a B average. At least there's no extracurricular activities to deal with in his 2nd semester so he should be able to stay ahead.

    In Japan, more people died from suicide last month than from Covid in all of 2020 - CNN
     
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  3. gator95

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    This is delving into yesterday when you wouldn’t apologize for making up lies about me and finally had to back down when i called you out. I am somewhat embarrassed for you but you bring it on yourself.
     
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  4. mdgator05

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    Yeah, literally none of that happened except your resentments.
     
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  5. vaxcardinal

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    Tell that to Rudy
     
  6. pkaib01

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    Shadow herd immunity strategy?

    ‘We want them infected’: Trump appointee demanded ‘herd immunity’ strategy, emails reveal
     
  7. chemgator

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    If the vaccine test program lasted a full year, the outcome of 0.1% would be expected. I'm guessing the vaccine test program has been going on for less than a year, so this could be a concern. If the test program has been going on for two months, then the rate of people getting Bell's Palsy is six times higher than the normal occurrence.
     
  8. gators81

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    He’s also ignoring the fact that year over year increasing suicides has been a trend at minimum five years. No one’s arguing that they wouldn’t go up. Of course they would, they’ve gone up every year. The counter argument is there is no proof that they’ve gone up because of lockdowns or at a significantly higher rate than they we’re already trending.
     
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  9. RIP

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    You assume that doctors are being honest = lunacy
    Him assuming all sorts of conspiracy theories = woke
     
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  10. gators81

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    No no no, you’re mistaken, he’s not one for conspiracy theories.
     
  11. gator95

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    No ones arguing they wouldn’t go up? Check post 20505. Case closed
     
  12. gator95

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    Ok mr everything is a Covid death...
     
  13. oragator1

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    A new high in deaths today with some reporting likely left.
     
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  14. docspor

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    there could be a third variable like covid cases driving both the longer lockdowns & the increase in suicides.
     
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  15. oragator1

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    Good heavens, California reported 57k new cases today
     
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  16. OklahomaGator

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    Don't they have some of the strictest lockdown rules out there?
     
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    Highest reported Daily New Deaths (Top 31 days)

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    3. December 10th - 3094
    4. December 11th - 3029
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    September 11th 2001 -2977
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    D-Day - 2500
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    Heart Disease- approx 1800/day
    Cancer- approx 1650/day
     
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  18. RIP

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    Since we all know all deaths are counted as COVID and that many die of heart disease and cancer that means there were actually zero COVID deaths. We are winning!
     
  19. exiledgator

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    All those non-covid excess death days resulted in the United States destroying enemy societies deemed responsible. Sometimes actually nuking them.

    Now, due to criminal leadership, half our population - the same half that holds the above mentioned actions dear to their heart, just give a collective meh.
     
  20. dingyibvs

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    Well, before this thing was politicized, nobody was really asking these questions. People just took physicians or the CDC's words for it. These things are actually fairly complicated, and not very easy to explain. Just look at the example of tobacco.

    Nobody dies directly from smoking, they die of COPD, cardiovascular disease, and cancer, so where does the so and so number of people die from smoking each year comes from? How can you say the cancer is due to smoking when people who don't smoke get many of the same cancers? Same for COPD and cardiovascular disease? This is the argument tobacco companies have been making for many decades, and for many decades they were quite successful at it despite consensus among the medical community.

    It's not really difficult to make the same argument for COVID, as well as many other diseases. It took decades of studies and litigation to change the environment for tobacco, and if the political will is there for COVID, it'll be the same.
     
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