Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Nope. You only looked at the LEGAL ramifications of DUI while ignoring the MORAL considerations. That is where the analogy is valid.

 

Cases, hospitalizations, and deaths climbing...hope those dinners, gyms, Halloween parties, church services etc were worth it. Back over 1000 per day dying from covid. And it is only going to get worse.. Congratulations america.

‘It’s Traumatizing’: Coronavirus Deaths in the U.S. Are Climbing AgainAmerica.

Deaths lag several weeks behind infections, so the toll being recorded now reflects transmission that happened several weeks ago, before the country began logging more than 140,000 new cases per day and hospitalizations reached their highest levels of the pandemic. On Friday, public health officials reported more than 181,000 new cases across the country, more than ever before.

 

You would pay $160 for each test? So let’s say 1 a day, so a $1,160 a week? Yeah, sure, sign me up!

 

Still, hospitals are now filling with patients, threatening the limits of medical systems in some regions. More than 68,000 people are in the hospital with the virus, greater than two earlier peaks in the spring and summer. Even the best medicines and techniques lose their usefulness if too many people get sick at the same time, taxing staffing and supplies.

“When you’ve overwhelmed the health care system, nobody is going to get optimal care,” said Dr. Jessica Justman, an epidemiologist at Columbia University.

The rising case numbers — and the threat of mounting deaths — have led some experts to call for a coordinated national shutdown for four to six weeks. Other experts have advocated for a combination of masks, increased testing, paid support for people in quarantine and targeted shutdowns focused on high-risk indoor spaces as a way to slow the toll.

“We can expect the case and death count to continue to rise exponentially unless we take serious measures to mitigate the virus,” said Dr. Howard Markel, a historian of epidemics at the University of Michigan. “All of this is terrible news.

 

How on Earth does creating a robust testing program equal a police state?

Has anyone said anything about mandatory testing? About testing under threat of arrest?!? Do you think nobody wants to know if they have covid?

You have consistently positioned yourself against the control of this spread in every way imaginable, and your imagination is very impressive. I'll give you that. You've been able to imagine every new fact as fake or as a liberal plot to control lives. And now that it's clear to everyone that Covid is indeed out of control, you throw up your hands and claim there's nothing we can do or could have ever done against such a virus. Is there a scenario imaginable that may cause you some introspection?

Why am I even bothering.

 

If the testing isn't mandatory or compulsory, I'm not sure how this will help solve anything. That means there will inevitably be hundreds of thousands of asymptomatic Covid patients walking around amongst us that don't know they have it, because they've elected not to be tested. Notwithstanding the fact that we've now done 160,000,000+ tests, which means if anybody really wants to be tested, they can be. In other words, we already have the most robust testing platform in the world as borne out by our per capita numbers.

If you're wanting it like it's a 5-minute at home pregnancy test, real life doesn't work that way. Brand new viruses can't be detected by a solution that costs 2 cents to produce. The quick tests cost a lot of money and it isn't feasible for everybody to do it every day. We haven't even gotten to the part yet where the death rate is likely under 1% for this. So all this hysteria for something you have snowball's chance of dying from.

You're correct. I'm not and never have bought into the hype. Once it became clear governors were using it as a mechanism to control people, I grew angry. Why am I even bothering? It's clear you live in a dream world where if Joe Biden was president, we would all have Covid rapid test trees planted in our backyard and we could pick a $160 Covid quick test off of our trees anytime we felt the need. The whole family could gather round while you wait for your results. Is it a positive??!? Ooooooh. You're only 50 and in reasonable health? Congratulations, Dad! You have a 0.000500234% chance of dying from this!!!

 

ignore feature is very helpful to clean up the board and shut out those who bring nothing of value

 

trump rally in DC will be another superspreader event. very few masks in sight

Nurses across country begging people to quit their bad habits that is spreading the virus. they are worn out

 

I have never used the ignore feature but as the die hard trumpsters get more and more desperate, it may be time.

 

Surprised we’re the worst in the world. Even worse than say India - that has many citizens packed together. But they probably don’t test like we do.

 

I don’t know, they try so hard, it’s kind of cute.

 

Do we have any nurses/docs here? Would like to hear what you’re seeing.

 

Why don't we just eliminate police altogether? It will save money on those pesky regulations (laws). What could possibly go wrong?

Oh wait...

 

I have 3 nurses in my extended family (2 inlaws, 1 cousin), San Antonio, Detroit, and Jacksonville. They all seem to feel the same way; they are tired of people being selfish until they get sick and then expect them to move heaven and earth to help them. What I hear from them almost sounds like PTSD and they are less caring than they have ever been as they are being asked to work 60 + hrs per week and put their family at risk because people refuse to socially distance and mask. It isn't fair to them to keep this up

 

Great feedback, thanks. I feel bad for them - they take their job very seriously and going thru this.

 

Minnesota Not Nice. Who doesn't alert the entire legislature?

Minnesota Star Tribune

Minnesota GOP sent virus alert only to its side of the aisle
Some Republicans tested positive, but no DFLers were told before session.

A day after it was revealed that GOP state Sen. Dave Senjem tested positive for COVID-19 after attending a Nov. 5 party caucus, news broke that Republican senators and staffers were informed in a Tuesday memo that “a number of [GOP Senate] members and staff have been diagnosed with COVID-19.”

DFLers were not informed of the rash of cases on the other side of the aisle.

In the memo, Craig Sondag, the Senate Republican chief of staff, declined to reveal the names of the infected, citing a balance between the infected people’s right to privacy and the need of their contacts to know they had been exposed. He instructed all GOP Senate staffers to work from home, including during Thursday’s special session.

The memo, the authenticity of which was confirmed to the Star Tribune by Senate spokeswoman Rachel Aplikowski, was first reported by Minnesota Public Radio. MPR also reported that Sen. Paul T. Anderson, R-Plymouth, has tested positive for COVID-19.

 

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