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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Jan 20, 2020.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    EU cases spiking, shutdowns looming. At some point people are going to ahve to admit that opening indoor gathering spots bars and restaurants and churches is not a good idea if your goal is to stop the spread of the virus

    Further restrictions, curfews imposed in Europe as continent fights COVID-19 surge
    Governments across Europe have introduced more restrictions to combat the spread of COVID-19, with a combination of nationwide and specific regional measures and curfews imposed as the continent faces its "second wave."

    In total, over 7 million cases have been recorded in Europe since the start of the pandemic, according to the European Center for Disease Control, with 241,291 deaths.

    After new restrictions were imposed in several countries earlier this month, Switzerland has followed Italy in imposing a nationwide mask mandate in all public spaces from Monday.
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    Ireland’s government has announced that, starting Wednesday, it is returning the country to a full-scale lockdown for six weeks, reinstating restrictions close to those that were in place in the spring at the height of the first wave of the pandemic.

    The new lockdown will raise restrictions from Level 3 to Level 5, banning all house visits, closing all but essential retail stores, and requiring people to stay within a 5-kilometer (3-mile) radius of their homes. The new guidelines represent one of the strictest national lockdowns in Europe.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    Ireland shutting down for 6 weeks

    The Latest: Ireland sets new virus restrictions for 6 weeks

    LONDON — Ireland’s government is putting the country at its highest level of coronavirus restrictions for six weeks in a bid to combat a rise in infections.

    Premier Micheal Martin said Monday the measures take effect at midnight Wednesday and run until Dec. 1.

    People are being asked to stay at home, with exercise allowed only within a 5-kilometer (3-mile) radius of their home. Only essential stores can open. Restaurants and bars can provide only takeaway service. No social or family gatherings will be allowed in homes or private gardens, but schools will remain open to prioritize education.
     
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  3. G8trGr8t

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    Wales shutting down for 2 weeks

    Wales to go into national two-week 'firebreak' Covid lockdown

    The Welsh government has mounted a staunch defence of the need for a nationwide lockdown as it announced “sharp and deep” measures despite having the lowest rate of Covid-19 cases of the four UK nations. The first minister, Mark Drakeford, insisted the two-week “firebreak” – under which schools, shops, pubs and hotels will close and citizens will be told to stay at home – was needed to prevent thousands more deaths and the NHS becoming overwhelmed.

    The move means England is the only part of the UK not to bring in a form of national “circuit breaker”, even though it has been advised to do so by experts on the Sage committee, by teachers’ leaders, doctors and by the Labour party.

    On Monday 18,804 new lab-confirmed cases of coronavirus were reported in the UK and 80 deaths. The number of people newly admitted to hospital rose to 988, bringing the total received treatment to 5,608 including 592 in ventilator beds. Matt Hancock, the health secretary, warned the Commons of increasing rates of the virus among older people.

    But following the Welsh announcement, Boris Johnson’s spokesman defended the UK government’s approach. “We keep all of our measures under review but the prime minister has made very clear that he doesn’t want a return to something like a national lockdown and he believes that our three-tiered approach is the right way forward,” he said.

    Last week it emerged that UK ministers had ignored advice from Sage for a country-wide circuit breaker to avoid “catastrophic consequences”.
     
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  4. chemgator

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    South Korea has started vaccinations, and some people are dying from the vaccine, possibly due to a failure to keep the vaccine properly refrigerated before use.

    Several South Koreans die after getting flu vaccine

     
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  5. RIP

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    f that
     
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  6. BLING

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    If they “failed to refrigerate” that may be an issue with the distributor, and not necessarily with the vaccine itself. Like if CVS had a truck that lost power/refrigeration and tainted a truckload of vaccines. But they administered to people anyway (knowingly or otherwise). That would on them, not on the vaccine itself. Though I was reading one of these vaccines requires essentially to be frozen and is only good for 24 hours even refrigerated Not sure how typical that is. Others have a shelf life of months.

    Either way, it’s all a math equation. Every vaccine carries some small risk, and mishandling is just one of them. But if a good vaccine can save hundreds of thousands of lives, and a couple dozen (or even hundreds) have an adverse reaction - that is still going to be a win overall for vaccination.
     
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  7. homer

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    They are not the chain jerking type. I sent them a text to see if they can give me specifics.
     
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  8. homer

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    just got a text response. Only about restrictions, nothing about lockdowns in homes.

    I think they may have misspoken? I put it here because they’re straight shooters and don’t exaggerate. So,,,,,,,

    Disregard
     
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  9. mutz87

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    I've been thinking a lot about the question you posed a week ago about choosing between being locked down for three or four weeks a la China or what we've experienced. On some level, it certainly looks like the former would have been the best option.
     
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  11. G8trGr8t

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    Crickets from those that were sure that Sweden had reached herd immunity..or maybe I just have them on ignore:)
     
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  12. G8trGr8t

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    Just crickets.
     
  14. homer

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    Is herd immunity even possible when you have a virus that mutates?

    I’m afraid Covid, due to mutations, is not going away, ever, and will become like the flu. We will eventually have a vaccine that will be hit and miss to different degrees just like our flu vaccine.
     
  15. G8trGr8t

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    Norway Tightens Virus Rules to Combat Surge in New Cases

    (Bloomberg) -- Norway is tightening restrictions on households and foreign workers as part of a series of rule changes aimed at stemming a resurgence in coronavirus cases across the Nordic nation, Prime Minister Erna Solberg said.

    Among a series of changes expected to last until early December, the Norwegian government is further limiting the number of people from different households who can meet at home and recommending social gatherings are kept shorter and with fewer people. Quarantine rules for foreign workers are also being tightened, she said.

    Norway, western Europe’s largest oil and gas producer, has seen a resurgence in new Covid-19 cases in recent weeks. From about 300 new cases a week in August, that number has jumped to about 900 so far in October. The nation has so far reported almost 18,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus and 279 fatalities.

    The restrictions on foreign workers has led to a backlash from some labor groups, with Norsk Industri, which represents industrial employers, arguing that Norwegian businesses, and in particular the oil and gas industry, are already struggling to recruit enough skilled workers.
     
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  16. chemgator

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    France loses control of the virus. Hospitals are starting to fill up and transfer patients to hospitals in other parts of the country.

    France may be at 100,000 virus cases daily as Molotov cocktails thrown at German public health agency

    An unusual nugget from later on in the article: Germany reports that the health agency advising the government on Covid-19 was firebombed with Molotov cocktails. Those Berliners mean business.
     
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  17. G8trGr8t

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    Germany, France gear up for new lockdowns as virus surges

    BERLIN (AP) — Germany and France got ready to face new lockdowns Wednesday, as governments sought to stop a fast-rising tide of coronavirus cases sweeping the continent. The World Health Organization says the European region — which according to its definition includes Russia, Turkey, Israel and Central Asia — accounted for almost half of the 2.8 million new coronavirus cases reported globally last week. The U.N. health agency said virus-related deaths were also on the rise in Europe, with about a 35% spike since the previous week, and that hospitalizations and ICU occupancy due to COVID-19 were increasing.
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    In France, more than half of the country’s intensive care units are already occupied by COVID-19 patients. French military and commercial planes are ferrying critically ill virus patients to other regions as hospitals fill up and French doctors have called on the government to impose a new nationwide lockdown.
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    In France, more than half of the country’s intensive care units are already occupied by COVID-19 patients. French military and commercial planes are ferrying critically ill virus patients to other regions as hospitals fill up and French doctors have called on the government to impose a new nationwide lockdown.
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    German Chancellor Angela Merkel pressed governors of the country’s 16 states Wednesday to quickly agree upon a partial lockdown that could include further restrictions on public gatherings and the closure of bars and restaurants.
     
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    "Some of Canada’s success is probably cultural and would have been hard to replicate in the U.S., as Ian Austen, a Canadian who has covered the country for The Times for more than a decade, told me. “There is generally a lot of deference to authority in Canada,” Ian said.

    But specific actions have also mattered. Unlike in the U.S., conservative politicians in Canada are not doubting the wisdom of mask-wearing, Ian said. This spring, Doug Ford, the conservative premier of Ontario, described people protesting social-distancing measures as “a bunch of yahoos.”

    And some top public-health officials in Canadian provinces have become semi-celebrities, as they have repeatedly urged social distancing, mask-wearing and other forms of caution. Imagine versions of Anthony Fauci, but ones who are praised across the political spectrum, rather than being called “a disaster,” as President Trump did with Fauci."

    Covid-19 Live Updates: Survival Rates Increase, and Not Just Because of Younger Patients
     
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    Alienating Fauci during the pandemic is like alienating Daryl during a zombie invasion.

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