Coronavirus - International stories and thoughts

That sucks.

 

From what I gather, 6' is good when people are passing by, but not for long periods of time, esp. when they are breathing heavily as when exercising, singing, etc. I don't see how they thought this would be an adequate mitigation factor.

 

Food for thought. Pop size differences or rates per 1m pop differences matter much less in how we are fairing comparatively.

What rates can sometimes do--and I'd argue, doing here--is mask the problem by hiding count (frequency) differences within a standardized metric. It's the frequency that matters for comparison because frequency tells as what is actually happening with the phenomenon itself in absolute terms and thus it tells us about our ability to contain the spread compared to other countries.

Thinking about it in terms of the R0, standardizing a rate by population wouldn't make sense since we want to know about is how many additional people get infected from each infected person, not the number of cases relative to population size. Where population size might matter would be if we were seeking to determine other effects. For instance, how might an increasingly larger percentage of infected people have negative and independent effects on public health that we would need to address?

 

Do you support a federal mandate for families to be locked in their homes?

Do you think Americans would follow those mandates?

Do you think there are enough feds around to round up and jail those people who would violate it? Is there even enough room in our jails and prisons?

Asking for a friend

 

I favor strong top down advocacy for safe behavior to control the the virus proactively in all areas of the country (masks, distancing), with strong evidence based reporting on regional prevalence of the virus so people are well informed, and regional lock down mandates in areas of outbreaks, using the best science to determine where lockdowns are needed.

While I am against one size fits all lock downs and such, we certainly can't successfully address the pandemic when the guy at the top is actively trying to subvert all common sense and science based efforts for perceived personal political gain.

 

a. I would support required isolation in areas with extreme outbreaks
b. A majority would adhere, as demonstrated in April
c. Rank strawman argument given the mandate, enforcement methods, penalties and breadth of violations are unknown. For example, the violations of shelter in place orders in the spring were misdemeanors. Don't be that guy.

 

Has Canada done any of those things?

 

Here's a list of Canada's emergency measures:

COVID-19: Emergency Measures Tracker

 

My question is would you approve of a lock down like I mentioned where the government orders families to stay in their homes?

No more, no less.

 

I have two Canadian friends who told me that some areas have been shut down by mandate. Stay at home orders with penalties if violated.

I’m going off what they told me. They are now both US citizens who’s families still live in Canada as Canadian citizens.

 

Can you substantiate their claims? I posted the emergency measures for the country earlier. I cannot find any articles about recent isolation orders, although I only spent 10 minutes looking.

 

I have a friend in Canada, no lockdowns by mandate. They wear masks. She lives in Toronto

 

In areas where the best, unpoliticized science indicated that was needed to control the pandemic, then yes.

 

Did your Canadian friends ever elaborate on the shutdowns? Or were they just jerking your chain?

 

AP Overview on the Northern Hemisphere surge:

“I see this as one of the toughest times in the epidemic,” said Dr. Peter Hotez, an infectious-disease specialist at the Baylor College of Medicine in Texas. “The numbers are going up pretty rapidly. We’re going to see a pretty large epidemic across the Northern Hemisphere.”

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the U.S. government’s top infectious-disease expert, said Americans should think hard about whether to hold Thanksgiving gatherings.

“Everyone has this traditional, emotional, warm feeling about the holidays and bringing a group of people, friends and family, together in the house indoors,” he said on ABC’s “Good Morning America.” “We really have to be careful this time that each individual family evaluates the risk-benefit of doing that.”

Europe, US reel as virus infections surge at record pace

 

Europe is hockey sticking