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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. BLING

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    Knowing the # infections (or at least, at minimum, having an immediate sense of directionality) matters because that is the first data point for being aware you have an outbreak. Generally the more tests and more consistent the testing, the better quality data you will get.

    If you wait to see the spike in hospitalizations and deaths, then you are reacting to a lagging indicator of at least 2-4 weeks. By the time you see spikes in
    these lagging indicators it may already be too late to stop something more serious.
     
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  2. g8trjax

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    Yep, funny how the media hysteria narrative has changed from flatten the curve to we're in a CASEDEMIC!!!
     
  3. OklahomaGator

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  4. OklahomaGator

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  5. OklahomaGator

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    Having to post these to Imgur and then copy to here, sorry for the small pics, I will get that worked out too.
     
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  6. philnotfil

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    What other contagious diseases is covid not worse than?
     
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    This Overlooked Variable Is the Key to the Pandemic

    They also point out that much of South Korea's success has been due to a similar approach of identifying clusters and taking action to prevent them from igniting another cluster.

    One concrete step we could take, according to this article, is reducing restrictions on outdoor activities and increasing restrictions on indoor activities.
     
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  8. gatordavisl

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    That's a new one to me. America is lagging because we are "social people?" You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but mine is that America is not merely lagging; it's completely failing against this virus due to a number of reasons. Poor leadership, misinformation, partisanship/dumb politicization of the virus, vanity, willful ignorance, selfishness, entitlement, and outright stupidity. Americans citizenry has literally and figuratively grown fat and dumb.
     
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  9. mdgator05

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    The funny part is that we are not particularly social compared to other advanced countries. Our social capital ranking is about 16th in the world. Ahead of us? All of Scandinavia, New Zealand, Canada, Germany, Australia, Austria, UK, Netherlands, Indonesia, and Ireland. We have a higher death/population ratio than any of those countries.

    Rankings :: Legatum Prosperity Index 2019

    Social countries are generally concerned about their impacts on other people. We clearly have a segment of the population that are not.
     
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  10. gator95

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    Covid experts: there is another way - UnHerd

    Some smart ideas by some very smart people.



    "Coming from both the left and right, and around the world, we have devoted our careers to protecting people. Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health. The results (to name a few) include lower childhood vaccination rates, worsening cardiovascular disease outcomes, fewer cancer screenings and deteriorating mental health – leading to greater excess mortality in years to come, with the working class and younger members of society carrying the heaviest burden. Keeping students out of school is a grave injustice.

    Keeping these measures in place until a vaccine is available will cause irreparable damage, with the underprivileged disproportionately harmed.

    Fortunately, our understanding of the virus is growing. We know that vulnerability to death from COVID-19 is more than a thousand-fold higher in the old and infirm than the young. Indeed, for children, COVID-19 is less dangerous than many other harms, including influenza.

    As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e. the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity."
     
  11. pkaib01

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    He's just running interference for the maladministration of the pandemic by the trump administration. It's laughable to dismiss the successfully implemented health policies by other countries because they don't hug as much as we do.
     
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  12. buckeyegator

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    got these off of covid 19 tracking. calling it my rolling 5 day average that started october 1. not a 3 day, not a 7 day, not a 14 day but a 5 day rolling average.average new tests 977,000 a day, average new cases 44,628 a day, average 4.55% positive a day, average daily deaths 623, that is all.
     
  13. OklahomaGator

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    I hesitate to weigh in on this but given the rather obvious 7 day cyclical nature of the numbers, a 7 day average would be the best one in my opinion.
     
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    curtis, go back a couple of pages and read the several back and forth posts between me and another poster, you will get my sarcasm.
     
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    pages 923 and 924
     
  16. OklahomaGator

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    Here is the morning update from world o meter as of 8 am EDT. There were 12 states with a decrease in active cases and total active cases dropped by around 85,000. There were 6 states with 1-2 deaths and 13 states with 0 deaths.
     
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    The death rate per reported case dropped again.
     
  19. gator95

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    My daughter works for Southwest Airlines. They had a voluntary retirement, temporary leave program that resulted in quite a few people taking it. They told her yesterday that every non-contract employee will have a 10% reduction in pay and some of the holiday bonuses will be reduced but no layoffs. She was bummed about the pay cut but happy they are still working.
     
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