Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

NY hit immunity tough guy.

 

Really? So we isolate the elderly. Who would take care of them if they needed medical attention?

 

That is exactly the game plan. But our elected leaders did a terrible job. That includes just about every scientist as well. Brutal.


Great post Oklahoma

 

people in masks, you know, what you say works like a charm.

 

now if we only had a DeLorean and could go back 6 months, but guess what, it is what it is.

 

Yes I do believe they help, but you say they don’t. Let me ask you this, you’ve said your mother is in an assisted living facility, with no masks and no social distancing occurring in our country, you’d be comfortable with someone treating her? Remember, you said yourself masks don’t work. So, someone who has taken ZERO measures to prevent contracting Covid outside of the facility is coming inside to take care of your already sick, elderly mother. Totes cool, right, no worries? Why would you even bother asking them to wear the mask if you don’t mind me asking? I’ll hang up and listen.

 

Where did I say masks don’t work? I’ll wait.

 

Since I know I didn’t say masks don’t work the rest of what you said is useless

 

That sounds good in theory, but then you have to explain how states with more per capita infections are seeing increases while NY is staying pretty steady.

Louisiana, Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, South Carolina, and Tennessee are all states with more per capita infections than New York and also got a second wave while New York didn't.

The herd immunity theory doesn't fit the observed facts.

 

Because you don’t want to answer it.... you know full well you would not be comfortable with a potentially presymptomatic carrier going anywhere near your mother.

You are correct, I admit I was wrong. You have said they help, but do not stop completely. Based on your 4 straight pages of rants and charts showing wearing masks doesn’t stop the spread, I overstated your opinion of masks. However, it does not invalidate the rest of my post. I’ll happily edit the word “help” to “eliminate” if you’ll admit isolating the elderly does not prevent Covid from getting to them when it’s left completely unchecked in the community. There’s no way we’d have been only at 50,000 deaths if the only measure taken was isolating the elderly.

 

Yes, I’ve been good with masked care workers treating my mom since March. Under 5 cases in 6 months. All asymptotic. Stand by the 50k number.

 

page 900 he we come

 

That isn’t what I asked.

 

Asymptomatic? Yes I’m good as long as that person doesn’t stay more than 2-3 minutes near my mom. And thats all my mom would need a day. So yeah I’m good.

 

I'm one, as well as my in laws and neighbors. So yes, someone in the south has been sheltering in place.

 

still avoiding the question. I presented a hypothetical with YOUR terms. You’re answering the reality with masks, social distancing, and shelter in place for months. The actual results are irrelevant to my question.

Remember, we aren’t blessed with a natural immunity. Lock downs were an unnecessary panic move. Masks don’t stop the spread completely. The only move was to isolate the elderly.

In this hypothetical your mom is sick and needs more than 2-3 minutes of attention. Covid has been left completely unchecked and is spreading in the community, a nurse/dr HAS to tend to her.

And no, you cannot assume the dr/nurse has been tested before their shift because we still do not have accurate or useful testing in place. So in your, all we had to do was isolate the elderly, you made no mention of increased testing. So, this dr/nurse could be asymptomatic, pre-syptomatic, or just lied about their symptoms because they had to earn a paycheck.

You good?

 

Nope, not good. You are making things up. But keep going, you’re hot! I mean the mental gymnastics you are doing to paint a worse case scenario. I presented the facts of what’s happening at my moms facility. Sucks for your hypotheticals but I’m good with how things turned out. Feel bad for other places that had problems and it’s downright criminal what some Governors ordered.