Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

If spread of the virus is exponential would it not make sense that suppression would be as well. If one person wears a mask it supposedly reduces spread by 60-70% or something like that. Well, if two people wear a mask it goes up. If three people wear a mask it goes up a little more. What do you think happen when damn near everyone buys in and they all wear masks?

No, it will not be 100% effective. No one has ever claimed that. People that wear masks will still get infected. We all know that. The less active cases in a community, the less it will spread. A mask absolutely gets the ball rolling on reducing transmission. That should be common sense.

I’ll also reiterate, 100% of the country wants to get back to normal. There are zero advocates for staying home forever as you so eloquently state over and over. Masks are a necessary step to normalcy for EVERYONE. Not just the fortunate that aren’t elderly or immuno compromised. Many fit into either or both categories that are contributing members of society and cannot stay home. All of these anti mask idiots are contributing to people in those categories having to stay home or risk their lives every time they go out. As long as that’s the case for %50+ of the population there will be no normal. That also SHOULD be common sense.

 

How long has California been shut down? How long has the mask mandate been going on there? Why are their numbers so bad? I mean it’s the most Dem state in the country. All i hear about are the anti-maskers are Republicans. Yet masks didn’t seem to help at all.

 

If the differences in infection rates between countries are explained by people there being somehow immune (this requires us to ignore the science showing that mask usage and social distancing explain most of the variation in infection rates, but for the sake of argument we will set that aside), then what should people in the countries that aren't somehow immune be doing about covid in their communities?

 

California instituted its mask mandate the end of June. Or about 10 weeks ago. Death tolls are going up slightly, but all other metrics are at their lowest points in months.

California isn't also as blue as you make it out to be. L. A. and the Bay Area are blue, but Orange County and the central valley are more red.

 

The virus is in all of these countries. It just isn't spreading much. There is literally no evidence that entire countries are immune. This is just you wishcasting an explanation for the fact that countries that took this more seriously were much less affected than we have been. Gummi bear on Twitter is not a reasonable source of information, even if he tells you what you want to be true. That should be common sense.

 

California’s been locked down since early March and mask mandates throughout. How do you explain their numbers as opposed to Florida how has been by orders of magnitude more lenient. I’m not ignoring science . Sounds like the masks save all crowd is ignoring science

 

There is no evidence either way. But sure, it’s because of masks...


Like I said, the masks save all crowd is ignorant.

 

California has 53 congressional districts. 46 are Dem. sure, it’s not so Left...

Any other good jokes today?

 

Their numbers are considerably lower in both cases and deaths per capita than Florida.

Worldometer:

Cases per Million People: California: 19,739; Florida: 31,552
Deaths per Million People: California: 377; Florida: 616

 

There is plenty of evidence that masks work. Here is a peer reviewed study that utilized mandates in the US as a natural experiment.

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

This study compared the pre-event (mask mandate) trend with the post-event trend, and found that significant declines only happened after the mandate.

 

How’s that mask mandate working for Hawaii?

 

California masks working great!

 

That right leaning LA county LOL

 

I provided peer reviewed science that utilized proper statistical methods to assess the change based on the events (mask mandates) across 15 states and DC. That is a far superior method to what you just tried to do.

 

just more masks working!

 

I provided real data. Sorry it doesn’t fit the masks stop everything rule. Masks help but they don’t stop the spread completely. Some countries I think are immune. We won’t know one way or the other for about 2 years after a real study happens.

 

I provided a statistical analysis of real data. That is a better method than let me go find some data that fits the point that I want to make.

Nobody has argued that it stops the spread completely. What I provided is a "real study." That is why it is published in a peer reviewed journal.

 

I guess those charts don’t like masks

 

If you don't understand that "hey, let me find some charts to support my viewpoint" is an inferior analysis technique to "let's compile data across many data points, have that process peer reviewed, do an appropriate statistical analysis to ask the question of whether mask mandates lower transmission rates, and have that peer reviewed," I don't know what to tell you.

 

Hey, why don’t those charts like my “peer reviewed study”? Those charts need to get their heads out of their asses I guess