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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. AgingGator

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    Also add in a media rabidly pursuing this pandemic and creating the irrational panic that most of the world has been under for the last 8 months.
     
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  2. gator95

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    Media knows Covid hysteria leads to money so they will keep feeding it to the lemmings.
     
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  3. gators81

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    Can you show hour work on that one? I thought the pandemic was killing the economy. How exactly is the media profiting off fear? Is Charmin giving the MSM kickbacks?
     
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  4. AgingGator

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    Agree.

    The media would rather cherry pick for the negatives rather than report the massive drop in the growth of COVID. The monthly growth rates by month are as follows:

    April - 410.9%
    May - 63.2%
    June - 45.3%
    July - 69.3%
    August - 30.4%

    September - 3.2% through 6 days, projects to 20.0% based on 6/1-6/6 data.

    What they also don't report is that these growth rates are all contained in 2% cumulative national infection rate.

    I suppose it is much easier to scare people based on higher growth rates in university environments without reporting the ridiculously low hospitalization rates and non-existent death rates in these samples.

    I have said before and will say again now: If you don't realize it yet, you will in time realize that these shut-downs were an incredibly stupid thing to do.
     
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  5. AgingGator

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    You can't be serious with question?
     
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  6. gators81

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    Please enlighten me....
     
  7. G8trGr8t

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    New U.S. Coronavirus Infections Slow as Labor Day Holiday Winds Down:
     
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  8. OklahomaGator

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    Here is the eagerly awaited updated stats from world o meter as of 8 am EDT on this Labor Day. Monday I update the testing numbers and the were over 5.6 million tests done last week. The US has now tested over 25% of the population and the positive test result percentage dropped again down to 7.3%.

    There were 13 states with a decrease in active cases and the number of active cases dropped over 20,000 from Friday. Several states had big drops which leads me to think they were getting the info caught up. There were 10 states with 1-6 deaths and 4 states with 0 deaths since Friday.
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  9. OklahomaGator

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    The death rate per reported case dropped below the 3% level for the first time since peaking at 6% on May 21st. It has now dropped over 50% since then.

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  10. AgingGator

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    Do you really believe that the all caring, all knowing, all enlightened media have not profited substantially from this?

    I am almost beginning to think that they are actually Capitalists masquerading as socialists. But there is no way they would take advantage of this, now would they?
     
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  11. gators81

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    I’m going to need more than a, “because I said so”.
     
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  12. gator95

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    Seriously? Dude I guess you never heard the saying “If it bleeds, it leads.” Can’t help you if you think the media calls everything down the middle and won’t embellish anything for financial gain.
     
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  13. buckeyegator

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    from covid19 tracking, so far for september averaging 751,076 daily tests, with 41,206 new case daily average, daily death average 915 with a daily positive rate of 5.5%.
     
  14. gators81

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    Never said they don’t embellish, but the narrative is that the shut down destroyed the economy. How is the mainstream media thriving was my question. More viewers typically equals more advertising dollars, but what money are all these depressed businesses spending?
    Phase 1: viewers
    Phase 2:.......
    Phase 3: profits!
     
  15. gator95

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    Turn on the tv, there is still commercials and the rates they charge are directly related to tv ratings. Simple math. More viewers more money.
     
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    The old "media doesn't report...." spiel, that never ends well.
    This morning while riding to the trail head, heard a report on NPR that death rate was continuing to drop. Or maybe I didn't since media won't report it.
     
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  17. dingyibvs

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    That depends, is % positives plummeting? It doesn't matter if you're testing 10 people a day or 10 million a day, sufficiency of testing depends on what the % positive is. If say the % positive is 0.01% then you're wasting money and testing too much, if say % positive is 50% then you're not testing enough.

    I don't know the answer to my question, so I can't make a judgment on what's going on in France.
     
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  18. gator95

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    The 1% blunder: How a simple but fatal math mistake by US Covid-19 experts caused the world to panic and order lockdowns

    Some interesting info in here. You would think scientists wouldn’t get numbers wrong but I guess that happened. And of course the nursing home fiasco that we let happen.


    “But because we panicked, we’ve added hugely to the toll. Excess mortality between March and May was around 70,000, not the 40,000 who died of/with Covid. Which means 30,000 may have died directly as a result of the actions we took.

    We protected the young, the children, who are at zero risk of Covid. But we threw our elderly and vulnerable under a bus. The very group who should have been shielded. Instead, we caused 20,000 excess deaths in care homes.”

    “We threw – to use health secretary Matt Hancock’s ridiculous phrase – a ring of steel around care homes. As it turned out, this was not to protect them, but to trap the residents, as we turned their buildings into Covid incubators. Anyone working in care homes, as I do, knows why we got 20,000 excess deaths. Government policy did this.

    That is far from all the damage. On top of care homes, the ONS estimates that 16,000 excess deaths were caused by lockdown. The heart attacks and strokes that were not treated. The empty, echoing hospitals and A&E units. The cancer treatments stopped entirely.“
     
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  19. PITBOSS

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    good data. Link?
     
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    Russia Today?

    Interesting that they assume the excess deaths are people who died of other things rather than covid, when all the evidence tells us these are people who died of covid, but weren't identified as such because of the push to minimize fatality numbers.
     
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