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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. surfn1080

    surfn1080 Premium Member

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    What did msm or dems or even experts know more of?? Hell I showed you just one far left article in Feb that had no concern for the US. You won’t find any until the end of Feb.

    Hell The WHO had not even labeled it a pandemic yet.

    Don’t let TDS blind you of simple dates on the matter. It was not until March 11 did WHO label it a pandemic. 2 days later the White House declared a national emergency.

    China didn’t share a damn thing and every single country was left to try and figure out wtf was going on.
     
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  2. surfn1080

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    I didn’t miss it. It doesn’t mean shit. Trump or any country in the world knew nothing because China lied and hid it from everyone.
    What did Trump lie about??? How the hell does Trump thoughTs of Xi in Feb which is well before it was even a pandemic have to do with what we all know now including Trump. At this point you just have a tinfoil hat on man.


    All it really proves is Trump had too much damn trust in Xi.
     
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  3. buckeyegator

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    used covid19 tracking for these numbers, so the are a little off compared to worldometer, but they go back months.in july there were 23,062,432 tests, a average of 743,949 a day.there were 1,909,863 tests, a average of 61,543 a day.there were 25,279 reported deaths, a average of 815 a day.so far this month there have been 10,079,717 tests, 719,979 average.744,256 positive cases, 53,161 daily average. reported deaths 14,720, daily average 1,052.while daily tests are down about 25,000,positive tests are down over 8,000 a day, about an 11.5% decrease
     
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  4. gatordavisl

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    Wait, you're kidding right? Think this through for just a minute. :emoji_thinking:
     
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  5. surfn1080

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    Nope.... not kidding. If your making an assumption just because you don’t like Trump and don’t trust him, than that is fine. But don’t call that matter of fact.

    There is currently no report that Trump or his staff knew more about the virus in Jan than any other leader out there.

    That would mean The WHO was on the ground in China somehow was fooled through March 11th...

    Now if someone comes out and says Trump and his team knew way more in from those 2 briefings, ill change my mind.
    Until than, China lied to the world and hid the true dangers of the virus. Hell even now they still won’t release now many truly died and were infected.
     
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  6. pkaib01

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    Intelligence reports from early in the pandemic that have been classified merits acknowledgment.

    Otherwise, it's hard to answer your question about what we haven't been told because... we haven't been told. Kinda of an odd challenge if you think about it.
     
  7. G8trGr8t

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    I'll ask again. When did the most powerful country with the largest intelligence agency in the world become dependent on our enemies and other external agencies to advise and protect us?
     
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  8. duchen

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    If you can’t grasp that Trump had better information than the MSM and Dems, and you post a February 2 story down playing the risk to defend Trump In the face of links that he had A report from Navarro and The IC that were already contrary to the public reporting, your brain evidently can’t grasp that the president of the United States has, and had access to, better information than a posted. And, since you accuse me of TDS, I would suggest that your loyalty to Trump has closed your brain to the ability to even process contrary information. To make it simple: Trump gets intelligence and information from the IC that the MSM and Democrats don’t have access to. Which the MSM later reported. After they found out about it.
     
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  9. G8trGr8t

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    Trump ignored his own intelligence services and believed Xi. He has done the same thing with Putun. What kind of POTUS discredits US intelligence agencies while touting the claims of our enemies?

    You are attempting to defend the indefensible. Why?
     
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  10. G8trGr8t

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    I gave you the article on the 2 generals in Italy and S Korea that acted early based on intel they had. Actions that worked to protect their troops. Is it your position that they had intel Trump didnt?
     
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  11. duchen

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    No. He is not. I posted the timeline discussing Navarro’s report in late January after the IC assessments. You are seeing first hand that Trump could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and it would not matter.
     
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  12. duchen

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    I posted several links. Doesn’t matter.
     
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  13. gators81

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    I know you’re being sarcastic, but I posted about the issues for Georgia about a month ago. Drive up sites that had miles long lines were converted to appointment only with empty parking lots. Combine the 3+ day wait to schedule and appointment with the 3 weeks of waiting for results and that leaves testing completely pointless. People in Georgia are going about their business infected and spreading it throughout the community with no way of testing or knowing for sure unless they’re exhibiting symptoms. All of this was done as the debate for reopening schools was going on and decreasing infection rates were needed to justify reopening. Coincidence? Yeah, I highly doubt it.
     
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  14. duchen

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    Tim foil hat? TDS? So, now you are going to insults? If you are looking for who is wearing a tin foil hat, re-read the last sentence of your post. Because you left out that what Trump was saying was contrary to the intelligence he received. Trump didn’t make a mistake. Lying his his MO of he thinks it will help him. And he has a ready stable to true believers who really believe him when he says, “I love you” to them right before he has his way.
     
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  16. gatordavisl

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    My question has nothing to do with a personal distaste for Trump. It's about the irony of you asking for evidence of classified information. I agree that Chinese constituents lied. I don't really know if our administration had covert intel early on, but would suggest that any such intel might take years to be leaked, or may never emerge.
     
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  17. chemgator

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    Another article on the Covid-19 long-haulers, and the idea that this virus is a vascular virus more than a respiratory virus.

    COVID-19 long haulers on months of debilitating symptoms: ‘They don’t know how to make me better’

     
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  19. duchen

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    This is one of the factors that is causing the PAC 2 and BIG 10 to not play football. ODO, the former FSU b-ball player, had COVID, recovered, and had a heart attack playing basketball. The Red Sox pitcher has myocarditis to an extent that the doctors feel he is at risk if he pitches. Apparently caused heart damage. The clotting and these issues leave an impact. It may be that the immune reaction triggers these consequences, but the what matters more than the why. And @G8trGr8t has been posting this for some time now.
     
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    University Of Michigan Cardiologist Questions Flawed Data Relied On By Big Ten To Cancel Season

    Looks like some of the data the Big Ten relied on was incorrect. Not saying the Big Ten wouldn’t have decided anyways to cancel but it was stupid to cancel so early when they could’ve waited. Especially since the Big Ten is letting their athletes still practice 20 hours a week and have intramural sports at some campuses.