everything not related to emergency healthcare, law enforcement, feeding ourselves, and essential utilities (water, sewer, power, nat gas, gasoline). 3 weeks. it is what we should have done to begin with.
Where do you draw the line? Truck drivers hauling food to grocery stores? Then you need gas stations on the interstates, then you need food for those cross country drivers when they stop to refuel. Who manages all the cattle in the fields? They have to go to the CO-OPS to get needed feed and supplies so now they are open. The people harvesting lettuce in the fields need boxes to put the lettuce in, so the plants that make the boxes have to operate and then the loggers that provide the pulp for the boxes. Just managing the food supply chain is a huge problem. It is never ending, 75% of the country would be classified as essential.
Halibut fishing out of Seward with 2 of my kids on father's day. Rules used to be 2 of any size per person per day. Fishing in 180 - 200 feet of water with 1 lb weights makes it a workout just to check your bait. Three years (?) back it changed to 1 any size and 1 under 34". Fishing was great this year and we got 3 that averaged 70 lbs (3 between me and my daughter), 108 lbs of fillets. Processed into 1 - 1.5 lb packages, vacuum sealed, frozen, packed into insulated boxes and brought home as checked luggage along with 35 lbs of sockeye salmon. Oddly enough we had a hard time getting our "under"that day. It was a great way to spend father's day. Had to buy a chest freezer when we got home to have room to store it all and found out rapidly that there are no chest freezers available. Searched craiglist and found a Cuban gentleman nearby selling new chest freezers (had 3), bicycles, and various other misceallaneous items in varying quantities out of his garage that he says he buys wholesale. I suspect he buys off the docks in Miami but no proof.
I suspect it would be closer to 20% but yes, workers needed to keep food and medical supply chains open would need to be exempted but expected to mask up and wash down.
Indeed. Another shut down would be catastrophic. Think local governments are hurting now? Yikes. Factories that shut down and then re-opened, shutting down again? Eeek. Unemployment out the buttocks. Think we got social unrest now?
I'm not sure the path is that extreme. If we all mask up and limit indoor groups for a month, we could suppress it enough to invoke some testing and contact tracing. Germany had great success when their neighbors were on fire 10 weeks ago with testing and contact tracing. We just have to get the numbers low enough to allow that. That being said, I've seen no plan from the WH to solve this problem whatsoever. Not even a "come together" message on wearing masks. trump can start each of his ego press updates wearing a mask and speaking of the importance of everyone doing so. But somehow it doesn't serve him. It's maddening.
You just described everything we did in late March through April: everything not related to emergency healthcare, law enforcement - check feeding ourselves - check - all dine-in restaurants shut down, grocers and delivery remained open and essential utilities (water, sewer, power, nat gas, gasoline). - check 3 weeks. it is what we should have done to begin with. - we actually did it longer than 3 weeks to begin with
Below is a partial list of what was exempt. When Miami and Tampa shut down construction sites, projects that I designed and permitted in Lee and Collier counties had an influx of crews from those areas to our area. Beaches closed in Miami, Ft Lauderdale and Naples, Marco Island, Sanibel filled up with guests every weekend. Complete list is 19 pages long https://floridadisaster.org/globalassets/governor-essential-services.pdf Coronavirus Florida: What are essential services and businesses in Florida during lockdown? Healthcare providers: Including, but not limited to, hospitals, doctors’ and dentists’ offices, urgent care centers, clinics, rehabilitation facilities, physical therapists, mental health professionals, therapists, and pharmacies Food providers and grocers: Grocery stores, farmers’ markets, farm and produce stands, supermarkets, food banks, convenience stores, and other establishments engaged in the retail sale of canned food, dry goods, fresh fruits and vegetables, supply, fresh meats, fish, and poultry, and any other household consumer products (such as cleaning and personal care products). This authorization includes stores that sell groceries and also sell other non-grocery products, and products necessary to maintaining the safety, sanitation, and essential operations of residences. The sale of alcoholic beverages is included. Food cultivation: Including farming, livestock, and fishing Social services: Businesses that provide food, shelter, social services, and other necessities of life for economically disadvantaged or otherwise needy individuals Media: Newspapers, television, radio, and other media services Automobile: Gas stations; new and used automobile dealerships; auto-supply, auto-repair, and related facilities Finance: Banks and related financial institutions Hardware stores Contractors and other tradesmen: Including appliance repair personnel, exterminators, and other service providers who provide services that are necessary to maintaining the safety, sanitation, and essential operation of residences and other structures Mailing and shipping: Businesses providing mailing and shipping services, including post office boxes Colleges: Private colleges, trade schools, and technical colleges, but only as needed to facilitate online or distance learning; and residence halls, to the extent needed to accommodate students who cannot return to their homes Laundry: Laundromats, dry cleaners, and laundry service providers Food service: Restaurants and other facilities that prepare and serve food, but subject to the limitations and requirements of the order. Schools and other entities that typically provide free food services to students or members of the public may continue to do so on the condition that the food is provided to students or members of the public on a pick-up and takeaway basis only. Schools and other entities that provide food services under this exemption shall not permit the food to be eaten at the site where it is provided, or at any other gathering site; Office supply: Businesses that supply office products needed for people to work from home; businesses that supply other essential businesses with the support or supplies necessary to operate, and which do not interact with the general public; Delivery: Businesses that ship or deliver groceries, food, goods, or services directly to residences Transportation: Airlines, taxis, and other private transportation providers providing transportation services via automobile, truck, bus, or train Senior care: Home-based care for seniors, adults, or children; assisted living facilities, nursing homes, and adult day care centers, and senior residential facilities Professional services: Such as legal or accounting services, when necessary to assist in compliance with legally mandated activities; Outdoor care: Landscape and pool care businesses, including residential landscape and pool care services; Childcare: Facilities providing services that enable employees exempted in this order to work as permitted. To the extent possible, childcare facilities should operate under the following mandatory conditions: Childcare must be carried out in stable groups of 10 or fewer (inclusive of childcare providers for the group); Children and child care providers shall not change from one group to another; If more than one group of children is cared for at one facility, each group shall be in a separate room. Groups shall not mix or interact with each other. Businesses operating at any airport, seaport, or other government facility, including parks and government offices; Pet supply stores Logistics providers: Including warehouses, trucking, consolidators, fumigators, and handlers Telecommunications providers: Including sales of computer or telecommunications devices and the provision of home telecommunications; Propane or natural gas provision Office space and administrative support necessary to perform any of the above listed activities Construction: Open construction sites, irrespective of the type of building; Architectural, engineering, or land surveying services; Factories: Manufacturing facilities, bottling plants, or other industrial uses; Waste management services: Including collection and disposal of waste Lodging: Hotels, motels, other commercial lodging establishments and temporary vacation rentals Veterinarians and pet boarding facilities Mortuaries, funeral homes, and cemeteries Firearm and ammunition supply stores
I wish that would do it but I just don't think that will be enough to get the case count low enough to make contact tracing effective
Coronavirus is ravaging entire South Texas families and medical teams - CNN People who never left home. Had nurse come to them. Nurse son infected nurse who infected couple who died. Lot of sad stories at the link about people trying everything to stay safe but high viral load in community still resulted in their deaths Kids infecting parents who then infect at risk people they work with/for. Exactly why schools should not reopen in areas with ongoing community transmission
Those are the options left after the partial shutdown followed by too soon openings and no mask mandates. What we did and are doing didn't /isn't working. What would you propose? A continued 1000 + dead per day including healthcare workers / grocery store employees that are trying to provide the essential services?
It’s too bad all those wrestlers got infected and either ended up in the hospital or passed away. Shame, shame, shame
