Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Let’s stay shut down permanently! Hell with school. Have kids learn a trade like the old days. Sounds like a plan to me!

The first day kids can go back to school my kids will be there. You stay home with your kids. Good luck.

 

Thanks we’ve seen that on here before.

 

Obviously they are outliers too

One of my graduate professors was fond of saying there were no such things as outliers. His point was that people only bring up outliers when they are trying to get the results they want. Double check to make sure the data isn't faulty, but if they observations really happened, then you have to play it as it is, you can't just cut out the observations that don't align with what you want.

 

No middle ground in between those two options?

 

If you want to understand how this works, and how clusters occur, check out the Marlins. And now generalize this to school classrooms. Meanwhile, they have fans in the stands in South Korea and France. Just finished the Premier League. There is another way. But, our policy is being driven by policy makers who, like you, really don’t give a damn. Who just dismiss that which works with no explanation or outright falsehoods that we need to shut down forever. Policy driven by ignorance.

 

Little details they dont care about. Don't bother them with anything past the headline

 

Or we can be like rational people and open schools in areas where it isn’t blowing up. Like just about everywhere in Florida except south Florida. Shocking the Marlins players got COVID in Miami. Who would’ve thunk it? Crazy I know. Yeah, I don’t give a crap. Such a lazy thing to say. Usually When someone resorts to name calling that is because you know you’ve lost the argument. Fits here for sure. My kids will be ready for school to start.

 

There’s no “data” in that link, it’s opinion piece that uses adjectives and superlatives, that doesn’t qualify as “data”...

I’d like to see a study on the long term mental and emotional damage done to a child that brings Covid from school into their home and kills a parent or grandparent. All these “studies” written about the need to reopen focus on the emotional damage done by not being in school. There are plenty of scenarios that could provide long term damage from going as well.

This link you provided even says PERMANENT school and child care center closures are unsustainable. Really?!?! Wow, permanent... Who the hell is arguing for permanent anything let alone school closures. Obviously that’s not sustainable, is anyone actually thinking more than a semester at a time?

There are way to many unknowns at this stage for me to put my kids and my family at risk. My kids won’t be the guinea pigs to find out just how dangerous school is. Will a semester at home cause some socialization issue, probably. Will my kid fall behind in learning, maybe?

 

Good for you. My kids high school is running about 60% attending and the rest doing remotely. My kids will be there and my son will be playing baseball for his HS.

 

Aren't the kids all required to wear masks, social distance and wash hands 20 times a day, while being supervised by the staff? From my understanding, the schools will be as sterile as an ICU. It's not like they're throwing them haphazardly into a protest without any supervision or something like that.

 

7/27 (596) highest Monday deaths since 6/8 (598)

 

You’re understanding and the reality of what will take place couldn’t be any further apart...

 

3-day moving average of new cases at its lowest level since 7/9

 

Are you saying the reality will end up being more like one of the protests?

 

No

 

McKinley River cabins, roughly 15 miles from Denali Park Road. Spent 2 nights here, wish I could have spent a month

 

Wow, and I'm guessing that photo does little justice to seeing it in person. Beautiful.

 

I'll take Taiwan for 500 Alex. With a population of 23 million, they have 462 cases and seven deaths. Controlling for population, that would amount to 6,588 cases (we have 4.4 million) and 100 deaths (we have 150,000). So we are only 1,500x worse than Taiwan in death rate.
But I'd also take just about any of the EU nations' situation as well. I bet they are much less reluctant to open things like sports and schools at the moment. Let's face it: When it came to handling the virus, the U.S. has been a big box of .

 

The U.S. has by far more cases and deaths than any other nation. Death rate is not an obscure number, but pointing out one nation's death rate in comparison with that of the U.S. would be. As for Germany, here's an obscure number:

nation........deaths/1million
Germany.....110
U.S.............454

 

Thousands of medical workers have contacted COVID-19, and they practice good hygiene and wear masks daily. We really expect kids to have better results?

This is about community spread. The risks to the kids is low, but what happens when someone on the baseball team tests positive? It will spread in the high school clubhouse the way it spread through the Marlin's clubhouse. It will also spread to teachers, parents, and into the community.

We know if we reopen too soon, things go bad. Does the virus care if people congregate in a school instead of a bar or gym? Of course not.

We all want to get back to as close as normal as possible. But returning to school too soon will end up causing delays, plus people getting sick and dying. It just isn't worth it until the numbers get significantly better.