I’ve been involved and seen people respond to stressful situations. You can assume others intent and guess wrong and get yourself in bad spot real quick. There are times to display strength and times it’s better to avoid confrontation altogether. I heard of alleged threats made. Again, wasn’t there. Tactically speaking, their actions aren’t what I would do, but hardly worth a DA indicting them. But yes I know you think differently
There's a video showing the first few protesters walking through the (intact) gate. What you also see is Mr. McCloskey standing in his backyard (or side yard), peering over the hedges at the protesters with his rifle, pointing his rifle at them, and shouting at them. This is before anybody possibly could have made a threat. And he clearly then left the safety of that area to come out front to stand closer to the group where he and his wife could act more menacingly. Yes, people make mistakes, but mistakes have consequences.
haven’t seen the video. No idea if legit or edited. You’re experiences in life likely different than mine. I’ve studied and seen too many cases where things get sideways quick. Just my opinion that a DA indicting these 2 is misguided with almost zero chance of actual conviction but as I stated, it’s my humble opinion that a conviction is not the end game.
The video is in post #83. Why don’t you try watching it first. Then you can challenge its authenticity. The fact that you have already decided that this idiot couple should be let off is extremely telling.
Well, the path they chose didn't work out too well in that department, did it? FIFY (Note, I left your grammatical and structural struggles intact): Pubs are causing the intimidation makes sense. An angry mob can trespass on your property, and if you commit crimes with firearms. They will take your guns, and use them as evidence in court.
The chances of conviction will increase substantially if the members of the jury panel that is seated are educated, intelligent and willing to set aside their preconceived notions of what they think the law should be and apply the actual law as instructed to the facts. If the panel is comprised of a bunch of redneck Billy-Bobs, you are probably correct.
i said the video, but I have been speaking in context in general. I watched the Rodney king video on TV 500 times and it turned out to only be a small snippet of the events. I wasn’t in St Louis. I wasn’t on scene. There is no way I can speak intelligently about what happened beginning to end. I’m not trying to convince anyone to agree with me. In my opinion this is just small potatoes and not worthy of an indictment. I would suggest the couple take a few more lessons with an instructor.
Okay let me give you an anecdotal situation that I witnessed years ago in Gainesville. There was a fight between two guys on the basketball court (fair bare knuckle fight between only 2 guys). Sore Loser left, and came back 15 minutes later or so with a gun. I looked around to see where the fight winner was who had been playing basketball moments ago and he was nowhere to be found. Of course it wasn't right to bring out a gun just because you got your butt whipped in a fist fight, but that gun de-escalated that potential confrontation immediately. And I would advise anyone with any sense to get the hell away from a threat with a firearm if possible.
Leaving then returning with a gun de escalated a confrontation that had already been resolved? Seems like a deliberate attempt to re escalate.
I'm curious why you feel that way. It appeared to me that both pointed their weapons at demonstrators.
Interesting citing of the law ("use of weapon during a racial injustice protest"). I wonder if the law accounts for illegal protests. I'm not suggesting they shouldn't be charged and have reversed my take on that. I do, however, think the illegal nature of the protest should be considered.
"St. Louis’ top prosecutor told The Associated Press on Monday that she is charging a white husband and wife with felony unlawful use of a weapon for displaying guns during a racial injustice protest outside their mansion. Gardner is recommending a diversion program such as community service rather than jail time if the McCloskeys are convicted. Typically, class E felonies could result in up to four years in prison." St. Louis couple charged for pulling guns at protest
I did not see him point at anyone as the wife did. I may have Just been exasperated And having flashbacks of her waving a weapon around with her finger on the trigger. My uncle use to pop the back of my head hard as hell for just resting my finger on the trigger and guard. If so charge his ass as well but the ones I saw he has the AR across his body generally not pointing. The woman’s a danger to herself and everyone around...Post please if I’m missing an angle..
