Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

That chart says, 'Assuming 150,000 total covid-19 deaths'. We are almost at that number now, and over the course of a whole year, we will be at more than double that number. If they are comparing 4 months of covid deaths to 1 year of flu deaths, that is highly misleading.

 

Not to mention, as other have, that the chart is comparing shutdown numbers for covid to business-as-usual numbers for flu. Freopp.org is run by a conservative free market guy too.

 

I don’t think it’s misleading at all. It’s telling me the risks associated with both. Even if it’s to 200k, it’s much more dangerous for kids to get the flu/pneumonia. It’s not even close. I will be sending my kids to school in August. Seminole county gave us 4 options. We chose the attend school physically, mostly on the numbers presented. That’s the beauty of the US, everyone has choices.

 

most places have been open for 2 months. I know my sons baseball team started back May 5th. So 2 months. And people have been around other people, whether that be at the beach, protests, playing with friends, parties and such.

 

Do you have the actual link to the page the chart appears on? If it is comparing 4 months of covid to 1 year of flu, then it is very misleading. The relative risk numbers would be very different if it were comparing 1 year of covid to 1 year of flu.

 

But is that still same level of activity we have in the fall when school is in session for everyone? Schools are hotspots for flu transmission. They have not been for COVID-19 transmission because schools have been closed, for the most part, since March.

ANd while your son's baseball is back practicing, how many MLB or minor league games have any one of them gone to since May? That answer is zero, because there haven't been any games. And even when they do start up, they will be without fans.

 

Still it's nothing like business as usual. Not even close. To be comparable, we'd have to have no social distancing and no face masks, kids in school, packed sports arenas, conventions, far more travel, bars open, etc, etc, etc...

 

If my aunt had balls and died of complications from COVID would she be listed as my aunt or uncle, who died of COVID?

 

There have been studies posted here that state children aren’t transmitters of Covid compared to adults. You worry about your family and I’ll worry about mine. They have multiple times odds of dying from the flu/pneumonia than Covid. They have better odds of dying in a car accident as well or from an alcohol related death since they are in HS.

 

listed as 2 covid deaths

 

Most baseball teams in Florida returned when my sons did. Everyone social distances at games. It’s the new normal for now. And like I said in another post, there is a study saying kids arent transmitters of Covid like adults are.

 

One study. This actual boarding school near Phoenix with 23 students and 8 staff testing positive tells a different story. Which is the outlier? Too early to tell, and a lot more study of the disease before we have the answer.

And you still don't get it. Under normal conditions, I'd imagine the kids on the baseball team would be attending MLB or minor league games with thousand of other fans. Or going to restaurants, hanging out at the mall and movie theaters, etc. There are also kids who aren't involved in baseball that under normal conditions, would have been in school March - May/June that may have skewed the COVID-19 in a bad direction.

 

No I get it. Just don’t agree with you. My kids along with every kid in our neighborhood have been running around for 2+ months now. I finally know 2 people who have Covid. Still rare where I’m at. I’m very comfortable sending my kids to school. If you aren’t that’s your decision. We have plenty of data showing kids aren’t at risk. Look at the data.

 

Estimating the Risk of Death from COVID-19 vs. Influenza by Age

 

Thanks for posting that, they really screwed up the numbers here. In the actual numbers, before they even start adjusting for assumptions there are some serious problems. For under 1 years there were 9 deaths in a population of 3,848,208, or 2.34 per million. They listed it at 1.04 per million. 1-4 years should be 0.50 (8 deaths in a population of 15.9 million), they have it at 0.13. The whole way down their numbers don't match up with what they say their source is.

 

This has nothing to do with the post you replied to. Just more of your talking points.

 

Nope. You just don’t like the outcome of the study.

 

McCain the “biggest traitor”. The guy was tortured for 5 years and didn’t flip. Couldn’t think of the opposite of a traitor.

Trumpers really are a cult. This is not an insult. Google the word traitor and get back to me. “A person who betrays a friend, country, principle, etc.”

Doesn’t sound like a war hero. Sounds like the leader who convinced (well 50% of the country has a lower than average IQ) that he could effectively lead. That is why this thread is so active. Buck stops somewhere. Where does it stop for you, all these records, who owns them?

 

Actually, the study I saw showed that in 3 out of 39 households, one of the kids transmitted it to the family. Couple of things -- the N for that study is tiny. And the study was conducted in April, when schools were presumably shut down. But even if the study is accurate, 8% of the households got covid from 1 of the kids. That is not an insignificant number when you multiply it by millions of households in Florida.

 

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...ows-low-coronavirus-infection-rate-in-schools

Not sure what study you are looking at but this doesn’t jive with what you are saying.