Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

I've only skimmed the article thus far, but this is phase 1 results. Following that is phase 2 and 3, usually a process that takes years but will probably be fast-tracked. I don't know when they completed this trial, but a few others completed phase 1 in March/April and are well on their way into phase 3 now. Results appear similar to other vaccines developed, demonstrating good antibody response and with similar side effect profile as what's essential a mild viral infection (i.e. fever, muscle aches, etc.).

The main difference I can see thus far is that this used a 2nd shot 4 weeks later, while the traditional vaccines didn't.

 

We've been setting new daily highs for new cases for 3 weeks solid. When are the hospitals going to be overloaded? Just accept the fact that we're finding more cases because we're testing way more now than we did in late March and most of these new cases are non-consequential. Back in March, it was mostly people who were sick enough to go to the hospital getting tested.

There are no flawed assumptions. We are testing way more than we were back in March and April. That's a fact. You test more, you're going to find more, because most Covid cases are either symptom free or minor cold-like symptoms. It's not that difficult.

 

The percentages of positives are way up and the wait time for results is longer. But, keep spreading the Right Wing taking points. You seem to have missed the reports of ICU units being filled in Arizona, Texas and Florida and Montgomery Alabama and elsewhere reported upthread and in the Florida thread m. Once again, it is difficult to have a discussion with you when basic facts are ignored. You seem to just parrot whatever right wing taking points are out there and just change when that talking points change and rarely ever support your theories with links.

 

empirically false. And people were sent back to nursing homes because the hospitals were filling up and the temporary facilities were not yet on line. Facts are pesky things. But, another talking point that if you repeat it enough, becomes ingrained as if it it true.
https://health.ny.gov/press/releases/2020/docs/nh_factors_report.pdf

 

Keep living in denial. Just look at the numbers. Back on April 21st, we had 2,748 deaths in one day. On April 21st, we had 693,465 active Covid cases open. Fast forward to today. We had 935 deaths or nearly 1/3rd of the death we had on April 21st with 1,805,739 active Covid cases open. Most of what's being added to the pile right now are non-consequential cases (ie people under 50, in generally good health, minor cold).

Doctors have improved treatment techniques. Seniors are more aware of how to stay safe. Governors are no longer sending sick Covid seniors to nursing homes. Just accept it. Things have improved on a number of fronts and we're not seeing the mass graves that you and your buddies here have been pining for.

 

Hospitals are very close to capacity in Fl, Tx, and Az. Patients are already waiting in ER rooms until ICU beds open up. In Southern Arizona, they had to ship patients to New Mexico to handle the overflow. Daily positives are rising, as are death totals, unfortunately.

 

2% death rate, 0.2% death rate. Those small percentages sound so much better than 138,000 deaths.

 

Nobody is pining for mass graves. You should be ashamed of yourself for even making a comment like that when we advance policy to reduce sickness and death and you advocate the exact opposite. Your personal attacks on people are despicable-particularly since what you advance is promoting the spread of sickness, sickness with lasting consequences to people and death. Once again, you post no links and utter talking points with a complete disregard for discussion of disease curves in Texas, Florida, California, Arizona or any mention of the conditions in the hospitals there as ICUs max out.

 

That you chose this meme to respond to empirical information concerning maxed out hospitals in multiple states, in a post showing why your talking points and comments about hospitals are wrong, combined with your insults, really underscores your utter lack of empathy for the very sick people in those hospitals and the overworked staffs that treat them. While you may think it is funny, rest assured that nobody with a heart is laughing. You need to post links to make your points. Otherwise, your comments are dangerous falsehoods.

 

Gross

 

Well, it's a highly contagious and occasionally deadly virus and people have gotten sick and died from viruses since the beginning of time. I wish none of us ever died and could live forever, but the reality is that people die every day. Lots of people.. from a variety of ailments.

 

No kidding!

 

I'd scratch my head, but it'd be raw by now; plus, I've got a good grow going for my next Locks Of Love donation.

 

Then explain why they had folks in the stands for a soccer game in Paris Sunday and at a baseball game in Taiwan and the handling to the virus in the EU and East Asia. You see, people do not have to get sick and die in the numbers we are having and economies can open robustly. Minimizing the disease doesn’t cut it, because the economy will not rebound under the circumstances in most of this country.

 

Well, here's a little bit of good news. The three day increases are lower on a global level and in the U.S. Let's keep this up!

Increases

Date.......world cases.....world deaths.....U.S. cases.....U.S. deaths
May3........255,940............14,061...............93,006...........4,731
May6........258,072............16,907...............75,063...........6,212
May9........278,941............15,389...............84,217...........5,238
May12......239,189............12,376...............61,327...........3,388
May15......284,608............15,658...............75,649...........5,082
May18......266,271............11,660...............66,009...........3,474
May21…....303,083…….....…14,472………........70,608…….......4,373
May24…....303,683……….....12,072…….....…...65,534…….......2,946
May27…....291,339…….....…10,756………........59,367…….......2,807
May30…....364,906…….....…13,454……....…....71,017…….......3,450
June2……..324,528……......…11,316…….....…...64,385……......2,502
June5……..365,955……......…15,934………........84,503……......3,331
June8……..349,307……......…10,486………........60,785……......1,665
June11…...395,623…......……15,077……….......63,208……......2,979
June14…...394,966……......…11,489……….......72,527……......1,824
June17…...416,062………......16,082……….......72,243……......2,083
June20…...513,453……......…15,422……….......96,107……......2,039
June23…...431,986…......……12,264……....…...93,590……......1,493
June26…...558,418……......…17,896………......128,788…….....4,167
June29…...535,253……......…11,239………......128,855…….....1,143
July2...…...574,195……......…15,882………......155,378…….....2,702
July5...…...573,206……......…12,875………......145,739…….....1,084
July8...…...610,409……......…15,274………......176,004…….....2,293
July11...….674,987……......…15,599………......196,714…....….2,541
July14...….615,422…......……13,572………......189,431…….....1,740

World cases and fatalities decreased for the most recent interval. U.S. cases also decreased for the first time since July 5. Fatalities down in the U.S. Mask up! Do the right thing. Let's get things going in the right direction and show that all humans can come together to combat this virus.

 

How do you figure 2% death rate on confirmed cases? Even with an inflated denominator/deflated numerator containing many cases that haven't been resolved, we have 3,545,077 confirmed cases and 139,143 deaths as of now.

139,143/3,545,077 = 3.93%.

And again, the is a lower figure than the true figure due to the fact that recent cases haven't been resolved. Looking only at cases diagnosed outside of the last two weeks (which likely have a very low death rate due to the disease progression not completing), that percentage increases to over 5%.

Add on that you are using a stat about the missed cases that is out of date and likely decreasing over time due to the increased testing you mentioned elsewhere (but didn't mention here, likely because it works against your point) and you have both outright fabricated numbers and put your thumb on the scale in completely unsupportable ways multiple times.

Why do you think you couldn't make your point using the real numbers and trying not to make every assumption with the goal of supporting your point?

 

What is wrong with you?

If you want to beat the drum of deaths not increasing in relation to new cases as they did in the first spike, that's a worthy drum to beat. We're all against people dying here. But to post this crap in response to someone pointing out increasing death in their state is just awful. Be better.

 

There's just no class there. You can disagree with folks and argue your points. It's a tough issue and there really is no winning side to it. It's a choice between economic hardship and lives lost. But posting lightning strikes and chicken little gifs is kinda gross when we're closing in on 140k dead.

 

I was responding to your bullshit comment about our President, and yes I did read your article.