Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

@flgator2 ..did you read the article or just roborespond because you knew you wouldn't like the answer to the question?

 

posted in cure thread but worth reposting here

This is big news

Moderna's Covid-19 Vaccine Moves to Bigger Study

New details about the first human study of Moderna Inc.’s experimental coronavirus vaccine emerged Tuesday, which researchers said reinforced their decision to take the shot into a large, decisive clinical trial scheduled to start in late July.

The new results, published online by the New England Journal of Medicine, showed that the vaccine induced the desired immune response for all 45 people evaluated—a larger group than in the preliminary data Moderna released in May—and was generally safe and well-tolerated.

“This is really quite good news,” Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said in an interview Tuesday. NIAID co-developed the Moderna vaccine and led the study. “The gold standard of protection against a viral infection is neutralizing antibodies,” he said. “And the data from the study, small numbers as it may be, are pretty clear that this vaccine is capable of inducing quite good [levels] of neutralizing antibodies.”

Researchers said they found no serious safety risks, though some participants had injection-site pain and symptoms such as fatigue, headache and chills.​

 

Sitting at 937 for the day against last week 7/7 (992)

slightly more than half of all deaths came from 4 states. In order CA,FL,TX and AZ.

First time in a week that the daily number did not exceed the previous week. Hope it continues.

Total new cases up 10,000 over last week.

 

No, they will apparently start a much larger trial at the end of this month. If the results from that are good, then they might approve it.

 

As far as I've read, normally there are a series of trials and long-term studies and so on. But I imagine that a lot of those are going to be circumvented or waived in the interests of a national emergency. So yeah, maybe. Could have vaccines by the end of the year. It would be Moderna's first publicly released medicine I believe, even though they have been around over a decade. If all goes well, this could be a revolutionary breakthrough, not just against COVID, but for treating viruses and other infections or conditions in a very rapid and much cheaper manner.

 

If that goes well, I think it should be.

 

funny coming from you. Thanks for the continued laughs.

 

This is what Trump said about “their hoax.” Discussed Russia. Spread falsehoods about the virus being just like the flu. Referred to impeachment and the Democrats. And then said, “this is their new hoax.”
Amid coronavirus threat, Trump holds South Carolina rally in latest effort to disrupt Democratic primary

 

don't know, I'm just a cut and paste dummy
@dingyibvs may be able to offer some insight, I'm not qualified

edit..found this..I just hope the antibodies have a longer shelf life than what covid survivors apparently have

First COVID-19 vaccine tested in US poised for final testing

The experimental vaccine, developed by Fauci's colleagues at the National Institutes of Health and Moderna Inc., will start its most important step around July 27: A 30,000-person study to prove if the shots really are strong enough to protect against the coronavirus.
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Those early volunteers developed what are called neutralizing antibodies in their bloodstream -- molecules key to blocking infection -- at levels comparable to those found in people who survived COVID-19, the research team reported in the New England Journal of Medicine.

"This is an essential building block that is needed to move forward with the trials that could actually determine whether the vaccine does protect against infection," said Dr. Lisa Jackson of the Kaiser Permanente Washington Research Institute in Seattle, who led the study.

 

I believe it is a joint partnership with NIH

 

more...

And Tuesday's results only included younger adults. The first-step testing later was expanded to include dozens of older adults, the age group most at risk from COVID-19. Those results aren't public yet but regulators are evaluating them, and Fauci said final testing will include older adults, as well as people with chronic health conditions that make them more vulnerable to the virus — and Black and Latino populations likewise affected.

Nearly two dozen possible COVID-19 vaccines are in various stages of testing around the world. Candidates from China and Britain's Oxford University also are entering final testing stages.

The 30,000-person study will mark the world's largest study of a potential COVID-19 vaccine so far. And the NIH-developed shot isn't the only one set for such massive U.S. testing, crucial to spot rare side effects. The government plans similar large studies of the Oxford candidate and another by Johnson & Johnson; separately, Pfizer Inc. is planning its own huge study.

 

Did somebody already post this? Proof of karma . . .

 

Wait, that’s neither clarity nor perspective. That’s a flat out contradiction. That’s an, I was horribly wrong, while refusing to admit you were wrong. It was a day later! What is wrong with people?!?!?

 

There is a great lack of empathy. Until something hits home. @cocodrilo had a great post yesterday in response to amber alerts for the virus when he joked about an alert a out the virus being at an intersection. Yesterday, the virus was just news Wollery chose not to believe. And something he couldn’t see with his own eyes. Today, his son has it with all the uncertainty a course if it brings.

 

So, erring on the side of caution, we're running about a 2% death rate right now on confirmed cases. CDC is telling us actual cases are probably 10x the confirmed amount. So we're talking about something with a 0.2% death rate. Or 1 in 500. Now for this next stat, I want to preface it by saying this is H-Y-P-E-R-B-O-L-E. Strip the over 65 population out of that and our death rate is probably 0.003%. Time to panic.

 

In all seriousness, I do think there was a time during all this that panic was justified. And that was when Cuomo sent the Covid seniors to nursing homes in NY. Now THAT was a reason to panic.

 

As hospitals fill up and become overloaded, it is truly pathetic that people are making policy based on this kind of flawed reasoning and faulty assumptions. Ever since cases passed 1000, you have lost all credibility. You just keep changing the story to fit your latest narrative. Sadly, policy makers are following this and people are dying and suffering.