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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. pkaib01

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    Cite your sources.
     
  2. BLING

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    Probably wherever hospitals are overflowing? That would be a pretty strong signal some mass burials are around the corner. First the “cases” spike. Then the hospitalizations. Then the deaths. Isn’t this common sense by now?

    It generally takes a few weeks in the hospital to die of COVID. So, I’d say in about 2 weeks for Houston. Maybe Arizona and Florida are another week behind. Unless some location bizarrely had more funeral home capacity than they do hospital capacity, it is just a chain of events that will happen. Hospitals overflowing —-> Funeral parlors overflowing. When they can’t store the bodies they will need to bury them or burn them all at once.
     
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  3. RIP

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    No, they definitely don't. I said from day 1 you'd see an increase from the protests. I do believe that the transmission would be less since they were outdoors and moving. Trump could have chosen to do the right thing and space out the rally attendees instead of directing his staff from removing the "do not sit here signs".
     
  4. BLING

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    No doubt the medical field is continually learning, problem is if hospitals start to fill the quality of care goes down, or in extremely catastrophic situation could be almost nonexistent.

    The death rate is still high for hospitalized patients. 5% is better than 10%, but if you allow 10x more cases you still get way more death.
     
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  5. buckeyegator

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    i think tik-tok took care of that
     
  6. thegator92

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    I would like to note that having antibodies in your system is NOT the same thing as being immune. The presence of antibodies means you have been exposed to a pathogen and the immune system has created special proteins that will match with a foreign substance. In some cases, that means the body can fight off an infection before it gets too widespread in the body, like measles for instance. In other cases, it means nothing, as the body can't fight off the pathogen, like HIV for exampl. In other cases, the antibodies are short-lived and only give short-term or partial immunity, like influenza.

    Just wanted to throw that out there since I have seen a few posts lately that conflate the two things.
     
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  7. RIP

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    Huh? I'm talking about the fact that his staff removed signs from seats to spread people out and put everyone in all packed together so it looked better in tight shots.
     
  8. buckeyegator

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    oh, i thought you were talking about the low attendance.
     
  9. RIP

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    I have no idea how you got that from my post.
     
  10. duchen

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    That isn’t what is happening in those countries.
     
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  11. duchen

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    I know 3 people who were on respirators. One died. Two others were sick. So, let’s roll the dice?
     
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  12. philnotfil

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    Isn't it fascinating that they did what we said should be done and it worked, but we ourselves didn't do those things and we have a lot more problems. We are so smart, yet so dumb.
     
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    The number of deaths may rise gradually with this second wave, but it’s not going to be anything like the first wave. We had made significant progress in the death rate before the 2nd wave began and the data tell us many of these new infections are in people under 40 years of age. It’s just not worth shutting down the economy again. You realize that 1,300 people die every day from smoking? Most people don’t even smoke anymore, but still 1,300 a day according to the CDC. We won’t even ban cigarettes, but we need to shut down the economy?
     
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  14. leftcoastgator

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    Bad example.

    Tobacco related deaths can’t be prevented in the short term, while COVID-19 deaths can.
     
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    See the problem is that you focus on the deaths, those are not LG's focus and never has been .... try the economy.
     
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  16. BLING

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    You think an economy can do well when you let a pandemic rage out of control? El oh el.
     
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  17. gatorknights

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    Obligatory F$U joke here, no further explanation required. :D:D:alligator::alligator:
     
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    my dad is well overweight and 55 years old with diabetes. He has worked from home since March and has not left nor have I seen him because of it.
     
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    The idea more younger people are being found positive, probably will lower the “official” death rate. But the fact hospitals are filling up also signals we are failing to contain the spread despite the knowledge of the positive tests.
     
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  20. surfn1080

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    sorry to hear that. I have not seen my parents since March as both would very likely die from it. Both have not left their home since a March either. My sister brings them groceries.

    the point is if you are at high risk and we have know for months now who is, stay isolated.

    There is no cure for this so why roll the dice as you said.
    Mean while, like my post said, the majority of people under 65 have very little issue getting over the virus, especially below 55.