Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

When are we going to see the mass graves? The number of active cases has been hitting new daily highs for 3 weeks now. You might have a point if what you're saying were actually true. All governors have very little political will to do a 2nd total shutdown. We're going to need to see more than an average of 600 deaths a day to get them there.

 

Deaths are a lagging indicator, FL just hit 119 deaths today, blowing by the old record back in April of 83.

 

Which is what they need to do to stop an outbreak. Isolation, testing, contact tracing.

 

And he surrounded himself with much better people.

 

Gee LCG - We need you to relay this to Pence / Trump since they apparently haven't got the message yet.

 

Interesting note about Melbourne shutting down. They shut down over 200 cases. With a population about a quarter Florida's size, this would be like Florida shutting down over 800 cases.

 

Something most of the world’s developed countries understand, but we’re ruled by a narcissistic nationalist idiot.

 

England reopened their pubs (at 6 am) Sat and they were filling up fast according to stories. People congested in the streets. It’s not just the US who is going to realize reality of living life with Covid. Other countries can stay shut down till a vaccine is created. That’s not the American way. No matter who is president or governor.

 

Cuomo sent 6300 covid patients to nursing homes , gee, wonder how many they infected and killed? From ny post story. All hail cuomo,worse than thought before

 

Even if the economy is completely “open“ people’s behavior has simply changed. We are in Phase 3 in VA. We re-opened responsibly and have not seen a huge surge in cases. But the shops and restaurants are all still empty for the most part. Capped at 50% capacity, they still aren’t close to being maxed out. “Open” or not I just don’t see the economy bouncing back soon.

 

We are hitting number of cases per day that NY saw yet we are far under their daily deaths.
They had many days over 900 deaths.

March 22nd is when NY first saw over 5k cases in one day. March 28th is when their deaths started to sky rocket as well.

The death lag argument seems that 7-10 days is a good average.

We started seeing new cases above 5k on June 24th yet still no where near NY death rate.

As I have said before, it should not be to anyone shock that we see an increase in deaths.
Unfortunately, deaths for those above 65 (especially 85+) continue to dominate total deaths.

The good news is majority of the new cases by a large margin are those under 45.

 

I don’t think mass graves are imminent, but the last three days have had more deaths than the previous weeks comparable days. And fairly significantly. So today is a pretty important day numbers wise. Last Thursday had 687 deaths, we will see where we are in comparison to that tonight. If it stays under then great, if it’s over again that’s four straight days and a pretty discernible unwelcome trend.

 

We are a lot better at treating it than we used to be. But the huge number of new cases mean that there will be large numbers of new deaths. Fortunately we won't have the same death rate as New York did, but yesterday we set a new record with 119 deaths, our previous peak was 83 deaths, back in April. We are moving in the wrong direction.

 

What's the answer? How many? Inquiring minds want to know.

I'm not being facetious, I do wonder what the likelihood of transmission of known positives vs the unknown positives are in healthcare settings. It's of professional and obviously personal interest to me as well.

If you know the answer, please share.

 

Do you think death is the only measure of negative impacts?

 

While places like Florida and Arizona not seeing the same morbidity rate as New York is better news, the news from FL and AZ still isn't great. Case numbers are rising and as expected, death tolls are following suit. Arizona had a day of over 110 deaths, but that was after the holiday weekend with just 1 reported death. Combine those two and it's closer to the week's average of around 55 a day.

Today, it was reported 76 deaths. Yes, still not at the level of NY, but moving in the wrong direction. So again, while AZ and FL aren't showing the death rates as NY did at their height, the bad news is the number of people dying is rising. And no way to spin that as good news.

 

Is there something we are doing different now than in April or June?

Like I said, a small increase is obvious but the freak out over cases is not warranted being how most of it is young people. I now know of 17 people who have had it. All but are below 40 with all but 4 saying it was 2-3 days of cold like symptoms and than it just totally disappeared. The other 4 said they didn't feel a thing and only got tested because they had been in close contact with someone who had it.

 

Doing this doesn't help make anyone think you're being reasonable.
It was okay to have thousands at 3 funerals for George Floyd and have 100's of thousands protesting but we must shut down the country again. Please try to be consistent about what's safe and not safe.

 

The Trump administration continues to be quite amazing.

Health secretary Azar wrongly claims 'health-care workers don't get infected' in argument for reopening schools

 

There are a lot of things we are doing differently, someone who is a doctor posted a good list a few days ago. Blood thinners and steroids were on the list, I don't remember what the rest of it was, but our death rate is way down. But cut the death rate in half and multiply the cases by a factor of 10 and we are still in a bad place.