Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

yeah, but arizona reported only 1 death yesterday, can you say catch up?

 

They didn't meet to go jogging lol, and they run in their neighborhoods early in the morning like normal. 4 different friends who all had it at different times and 2 in different states. I am pretty sure if they are still running heavily every day weeks for one and months for the others after having the virus their lungs are fine, so probably a waste to go into a DR office and pay to have their lungs scanned. Come on.

 

They are a**holes to go out jogging infected with this virus. They would breathing heavily and creating a spread risk as to anyone they ran near, by or passed.

 

I'd like to see you tell them that, lol. I mean we know how busy neighborhoods are at 5 and 6 am in rural areas. Very hard to distance from others, but I am sure you think you can spread it while being outside way more than 10 ft from anybody if you even see anybody. You have no idea where they live and where and when they run.

If I had it, I would be 100% confident running my normal route at my normal time and not being any near close enough to infect anybody, its rare I even see anybody. They live in a more rural area than I do. I wouldn't do it, but that's me, but to call them that without knowing anything is pretty damn presumptive on your part.

 

This is annoying. My wife works in an ICU and in patient placement. This ridiculous mockery of the industry is insulting. It gets old. It isn’t funny. Grow up.

 

US sets record 55,274 Covid cases today - this is becoming a national health care disaster. Without a coordinated national effort starting now we will be blowing through 200,000 deaths by Nov. Basic mask wearing and social distancing are not too much to expect people do to fight a common war. I'm glad to see Gov Abbott beginning to sound alarmed, although far too late, because it at least says it's becoming bigger than politics - sad in a way.

 

well, dont you and your wife think it is a crime to classify deaths as covid,if they are not, for profit? not saying that is what is going on, but if it is it needs to be investigated,imo, as fraud.

 

Especially considering COVID has been financially devastating to hospitals, even causing furloughs. Unless a hospital is packed with COVID patients, they are getting killed financially, and even if those “packed” hospitals are getting compensated - they are going through hell. I doubt whatever compensation they get from COVID makes up for the decline in elective procedures (or even outright bans on elective procedures in areas where the virus has been bad).

 

Most deaths in a month.

 

Yep. My wife works for an HCA hospital. It’s one of the big chains. Mid Feb stock was at $150. It’s under $100 now. There revenues are way down and their expense are up. And small minded people want to make sport of casting around baseless accusations.

I wonder how many people have watched videos of docs and nurses talking about what it’s like working in an ICU hit hard by Covid. I’ve seen a few dozen. If people opened their eyes to the hard work and emotional cost, and the financial facts maybe they’d not be so quick to make a joke. But some folks are immune to facts and feelings and just smack talk their way through life. It’s sad.

 

partly, i am sure due to weekend catch-up and states like arizona, 117 today, 1 yesterday,come on. sat/sun/mon numbers were only 905 combined, and more than that today alone? most likely a little low, so they rolled into today,

 

Sky News has done a bunch of these. Saw one in Houston.

 

Intentionally misclassifying a death for whatever reason is wrong, of course, but there is absolutely no friggin way hospitals are making money with COVID patients. Insurance coverage in this country is crap, and treatment for COVID is VERY expensive. Hospitals most likely lose a significant amount of money with COVID patients, and that's not even counting the cancellation of many lucrative elective surgeries.

For example, I went to med school at UM, so I trained primarily at Jackson Memorial. One of the guys living in my building was part of the auditing team for the hospital, and he told me that there is no way in hell the hospital would stay afloat. The city ended up increasing the sales tax to keep the hospital open, or else there'd be a healthcare crisis in Miami. I worked for a large private healthcare system in a mostly underserved area of NYC, and despite having a full breadth of elective surgical services the profit margin was tiny, about 1% or so, due to the large number of Medicare/Medicaid patients.

In general, hospitals don't make much money, if any at all, on patients with medical conditions. It's the elective surgeries that make hospitals money. There's a reason hospitals across the country have been going bankrupt left and right for many years now, well before COVID was around. The financial goal for most hospitals with medical patients is to try to lose as little money as possible.

 

Doctors and hospitals lost control over profit in medicine to insurance companies. Sad really. The older model was that people paid their bills and had an excess major medical policy. When that model changed, medicine in this country went out of balance. Off topic. But gets us closer to the Kelly thread.

 

Unfortunately, some people here get their talking points from Fox News and the buffet line at kfc so facts tend to get pushed to the side.

 

kfc has a buffet, not in gainesville.

 

There's one in St Augustine. It's amazing.

 

Well, if you and your associates are committing fraud under the guise of your independent business, should it not be investigated as a crime? I have about as much evidence of your fraud that you do of Covid fraud in the medical industry.

 

Source? Not questioning, just curious about which info you are referencing

 

Am I the only one that didn't know that death reporting usually lags death by 7 + days? So what we are seeing reported are apparently deaths from 7 days ago

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