Imagine where the economy would be if New York didn't have a data driven response to the crisis. The California numbers surprise me somewhat.
jeez I went back and looked at an exchange you and I had I think on this thread way early on, maybe page 10 or 11 because this had *bad* written all over it. So now we are over 3.5 months into it and things are again getting worse. What I'm getting at is that we might be looking at *now* in a way some others were looking at the situation back in early Feb not recognizing at all how bad things can possibly get.
CA's too big for me to make any true generalization but if I had to based on where I live it's that there are way way way too many of my fellow Californians that mistake abstract notions of freedom for doing what is right in the name of public health and safety.
We need a *sad* rating since come on man would make you think I'm saying it to you rather than generally speaking about the issue.
I would love to see some data by region since it is such a large state overlayed with some demographic data.
as bad as today was, over 39,000 new cases, that was not a record, 39,072 on april 24 is. and remember, we are testing 2 times as much as back then, so imagine what the numbers would have been.overall the positive rate is 8.2%, and as oklahomagator has shown daily, the death rate is at almost 5%, with 19 out of the last 20 days under 1,000.so while the last few days seem like a stepback, compared to 6 weeks ago we are making real strides, most notably off course in the mortality rate, and after all, that is the most important stat,imo.
Ended up at 39101, so yes a new record. Deaths the last two days have been flat from the same days last week after weeks of drops. Texas Medical Center in Houston today sent an open letter out begging people to stay home. This is all why Fauci says the next few weeks are so critical.
I think you gotta let it ride out. As we see in NY and NJ, there is a defined peak and then it tails off dramatically. The shut down simply delayed the inevitable. We'd been skating by pretty good with death rates per capita half that of major European countries. All we did is slowed it down a bit and spent trillions doing so.
Actually, banning entry from anyone who was Chinese, had visited China, or had traveled thru China would have been quite effective. We did 1 out of 3, and we see how well that worked out...
Well, I agree, most of it has been half-assed and yes, Trump bears the brunt of the blame for that. But let's not forget the WHO and PC mafia were all over Trump for being xenophobic when he did it. And let's not forget the hot topic of the day was Trump being impeached when that all went down. Still, he had the final word. There is simply too much BS floating around this country to have a cohesive response to something like this.
No. We now know for a fact that the virus was making it around Europe in December. So, short of shutting down all air travel to the United States before Christmas, there was no stopping this virus from entering the country. By the time the Chinese travel ban was discussed, the virus was already circulating in the United States.