Nursing home forced testing must have had an increase in testing and therefore an increase in positive cases.
Is there evidence the positivity rate is greater at nursing homes? Not sure where you are getting that. The death rate is surely higher when there are outbreaks at nursing homes (or among the elderly in general). Which is why they are mandating testing at nursing homes in the first place. If anything, at this stage one would hope with all the extra precautions (including more testing) nursing homes might be lower positivity rate than the general public. Not saying there’s data to support that either , I’m just not sure why you would assume the opposite.
I am close to the SNF and ALF industry and yes I am saying all staff and residents have been tested very recently. This will ineluctably increase positive cases...most staff did not wish to be tested.
But the people had to have been infected to test positive so the cases are going up because more have been infected. The testing just revealed it.
I don’t understand why this is even a debate. In order to move into different phases of reopening we were supposed to have flattened the curve. Flatten the curve as in stopping the increase. Why cases are increasing is irrelevant. Cases are there, curve hasn’t been flattened, opening is happening too early.
I don't get it either. It's such a weird stance. This isn't HIV we're talking about here. The only way I could see this argument making sense is if people are being tested multiple times and they are counting the 2nd positive test in the "new cases" category.
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So what if many who tested positive were asymptomatic and only found out because they were forced to be tested.
OK then we can call it a good move to test them and glad we caught it before some little old lady was infected from them. Are you saying we shouldn't count these asymptomatic infected? The WHO said the spread from asymptomatic carriers was "very rare" then walked it back the next day saying they aren't sure. Since the SNF and ALF population are the most vulnerable I think we'd like to err on the side of caution with them, don't you?
Agree with all you stated. I was only making the point that because thousands of residents and staff are forced to be tested, an increase in cases is a natural consequence. I dont think I ever said it was wrong.
Gotcha. Some have held on to this weird notion that the numbers are only going up because more are tested which leaves out the fact that even without testing the numbers in the real world are increasing. The tests just confirm it.
It is also possible that they understand that the increased percentage of positive results means that actually cases are increasing, but are purposely writing their posts ambiguously so they can exercise righteous indignation when people choose the wrong interpretation.
part of the problem is people still do stupid things. 78 migrant workers recentlly tested positive here in alachua county because one oif them went to south florida, got infected, came back and spread it.
because you travel down to the hot-spot of the virus knowing you run the higher than average risk of infection.
even with the last several days spike the overall positive rate in florida is 5.3%. at the start of june it was 5.5%
so, if at the height of the outbreak in the ny/nj area it would not be stupid to travel there and return to where you live, knowing the situation?
