No, they don't count. Protesting against what govt has a duty to do--protect the public--by violating the very measures needed to protect the public makes those protesters the problem. It follows that their bringing guns to protests, which happened in multiple instances, and many of their signs and comments reflect a confused view of the constitution and our freedoms. You can go back and look. It's only a few pages back. Waste of my time if you are going to be disingenuous.
The cray cray is intensifying. Put nut bags through a couple months of quarantine and you get nut bags intensified. Looks like I picked the wrong year to quit sniffing glue.
so trump should have overstepped cuomo on this? think of how the media would have reacted to him telling a gov. what to do, especially the all-mighty cuoma.bring on the negative remarks, we all know cuomo could do no wrong.
I really miss the heady days of Fever’s mathematically based 2k final death toll, or louisville telling us to get back to him when we got to the H1N1 number of 12k. Notice how neither are here anymore. but the overall progression is what’s fascinating. First it was China’s problem (and to be fair I was kinda in that boat too, based on a UF scientists’s prediction). Then it was that it was here but no big deal. Then it was here and spreading, but the flu. Then, ok maybe worse than the flu but still manageable. Now it’s, “the numbers are fake”, or “we handled it wrong”.
Seriously? You have NO idea what the death totals would be. Pulling stuff from out of thin air again. We do know that around 30-40% of all deaths are from nursing homes/assisted living facilities. So it would've made sense to restrict sending a Covid19 positive patient back into anywhere close to where the elderly would be. Trump should've made an executive order in early March and the Governors should've also had the common sense to do it also.
Not overstepped but should've issued whatever he could. Guideline, advisory, whatever you want to call it. He should've done that. BUT, even though he didn't doesn't excuse Cuomo and others from doing it. It's egregious.
Interesting that you think large swaths of people don't count for basically no reason. I would bet that the large group of gun-owning citizens who stayed home constitutes the vast majority of all gun-owning citizens. Still, I do not understand what the guns have to do with anything. Citizens are allowed to protest under the First Amendment. Many of whom did so while wearing masks and inside of vehicles, which would equate to social distancing. They are also afforded the right to carry guns. They did not shoot or threaten to shoot anyone. All of this is to say what is your point? What have guns and the 2nd Amendment have to do with anything here?
We are definitely slowing in the doubling rate, which is certainly good. Hopefully, we don't double again.
Infection fatality rate. What percentage of all the people who got it died. Most estimates are in the 0.5-1% range. The CDC put out some numbers this week that suggest an IFR of 0.26%, which is wildly optimistic, but still results in 600,000 dead Americans.
Agree on the nursing home issue. A TON of other things were Your linked article did not include "extreme measures" for mitigation. Its parameter for mitigation assumed a reduction in social contact of between 40 and 44.9% thru social distancing. That clearly does not represent what occurred in most areas with lock downs. Almost everyone working from home who could work from home. Nobody going out to eat. Most retail shut down except for grocery stores... where hopefully people were still social distancing. Would be interesting to see what that real life reduction in social contact amounted to, and what their projections would be with that level of reduction in social contact.
Thanks! Yeah 0.26% seems low for that. That would imply that 38 million Americans have had the virus with the official count at 1.7 million. That's a lot of undiagnosed cases.
Well that sure is an interesting find! You should report your findings immediately to ALL world governments because this paper was the basis for the lockdown measures across the globe, including our own!!
I might have missed it, but can you point out where in the paper it called for shutting down businesses, having people work from home, closing parks and beaches, etc? Or even used the word lockdown or any phrase with that meaning?
