South Korean CDC came out and pretty much spelled it out - forget the elevator buttons and wiping down groceries - 99% of the spread is being in a confined area with an infected for a prolonged period of time. You won't get that at an outdoor game. Fresh air. If indoors, ok fair point. But what SEC teams have domes? None right? 95% of the global cases have been acquired indoors. Just be smart about it, don't go to the bathroom (or hold your breath or better wear your mask and wash up before returning) and wait for the food guy come to you. I think I've read concessions are dead and they will come to you instead with basic grub. Forget getting sushi at a game from now on. Popcorn, hamburgers, and hot dogs only. Hot food that can be wrapped or boxed. You might be able to do the same with pretzels. But things like sushi are gone (hot food kills the virus). You want better or exotic, stay home and make it. This is not as infectious as people make it. At the S Korean call center where half of the cases came from, they were able to precisely trace all of the infected and the origins. They found those that were in the same area where infected but the other side of the floor zero cases. Furthermore, even with the elevators, very little transmission. They found you had to breathe the same air for a prolonged period of time to get infected. I'd rather attend an outdoor football game than an indoor concert - I won't do that until there's a vaccine.
I was wrong about the call center being half the cases, but it was a huge event with quantifiable numbers; 2nd only to the church gathering.
So Today or tomorrow we will pass 100k. Trump said if we keep it to 100k it will be a good job. When this is brought up to him, who will get his angry over the top bullying blame for not meeting it?
Since addressing this notion of "made up," you have completely ignored the original statement, instead opting to argue the semantics. You literally initiated a semantic argument. Here's the original statement: Now if you want to argue whether or not it was thoughtfully constructed, let's hear what you have to say.
I'm not sure an outdoor stadium would really qualify as "open air." There have been a bunch of cases of construction workers at the new Raiders stadium, and renovations at LA and Bama stadiums. COVID-19 outbreak hits Alabama football stadium construction workers - ProFootballTalk
Yeah, looks like it spiraled down the tree. I have seen only one other like it - also to a hardwood - and I thought at the time that lightening had done it. Enjoy the photos of your outings - keep doing both.
Granted it was prior to social distancing and a full analysis hasn’t been done yet, but many in Italy believe a single soccer match might have been a main culprit in the their outbreak. Game Zero: Spread of coronavirus linked to a Champions League game in Italy on Feb. 19
I also stated this OPINION, that the “risk” was long term lung damage, not death. Long term lung damage has been proven, not “made up”, and absolutely could, not necessarily will, impact one NFL future. I honestly cannot believe that I’m being called out for making stuff up in this thread. The entire damn thread is made up since the virus is ongoing and changing every day. Perhaps I’m being to sensitive, but the term “made up” in my mind associates with lies, fake news, and misinformation. None of which are present in my posts, at least I don’t think nor intend. I see a huge distinction between “make stuff up” and “hypothetical” thy semantics doesn’t quite cover.
Is there a link from the S Korea CDC story to see what it is that the actually studied and how. I used the "Google" and found no such story. Also, how is it that "you do not get that at an outdoor game"? Here is Ace Speedway this past Saturday night in bum-fruck, North Carolina. All of those people literally yelling over the noise of the cars trying to speak with each other, and your assertion and the assertion of the Korean CDC is that no droplets will be spread between people?? That is pretty hard to a.) believe that and b.) believe that the S Korean CDC actually said that? Further, events like this, football games, etc....promote people traveling together who would not regularly travel, congregating in bars and restaurants. So, it is not just the event itself. So, that is why I want to read the study, because if it is simply an "after the fact and we reviewed records" kind of study, well then duh...no kidding 95% have come from indoors because the world shut down all of the outdoor events after the disaster in Bergamo, Italy....the single soccer match that may have accelerated the disasters in Italy and Spain. Champions League match in Italy linked to epicentre of coronavirus outbreak
it is made up. Doctors said there “may” be long term damage. They have no idea. They are guessing. You need 5-10 year long range studies. Like I said, no college football player is sitting out because of that. They have significantly more probability of having a serious sports injury or an auto accident or cancer or suicide than these “hypotheticals” you keep tossing out there. There is risk of you falling while walking down the stairs yet you do it everyday. Look, no one is stopping you from staying home, but I’ll reiterate my offer. I’ll take bets on if someone will sit out college football because of coronavirus. Since you won’t take me up on it then it’s more just trying to use scare tactics. You don’t believe it at all.
25% - 35% capacity ok. Masks in ramps/bathrooms, ticket counters, etc where people will queue up? socially distant church with masks and without singing is one thing, church with hugging and hand shaking, and singing and no masks is something totally separate. how many churches do you think are going to do it safely?
We don’t know if they were in a meeting indoors or an interior part of the stadium when they got it. But I’d be interested to find out.
I hadn't seen that soccer match information but it just seems patently obvious that packing 85k next to each others, no matter the location, during a pandemic is not a good idea. Maybe at like 30% occupancy and proper spacing it is doable.
That's a fair question. Doubt we would ever know. I was unaware of the Italian soccer match link that has been posted twice in the last few comments here.
No idea. I know my church is doing it. Opening up to 1/4 capacity and have to have a reservation to attend a specific time of service. I’m sure others won’t and that is a problem, especially if the elderly are attending.
If people read the article, they do a good job of making the point that it was not just sitting in the stadium, but the large reliance on public transportation (trains) and the packing in of local bars for those not going to the game (because Gator fans would never do that) it was also the packing in of the restaurants before and after the games. It was the entire event, not just the game itself. However, over 30 players, trainers and other team staff who were on the field that night for the two sides were all sick within 2 weeks, and honestly, there are only 22 guys on that entire field, so something was going on.
