Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Dude,

Wait, I thought Cuomo is doing a great job and DeSantis is awful.

 

Yeah, I am wary of posting anything from the NY Post.
I honestly hate hate hate that this whole virus thing has gotten so political.

And the problem when something gets political is that tribal thinking takes over. D's are good, R's are bad. (Or the opposite.)
And no facts can get in the way of that. So clear thinking goes out the window.

This article seems factual, but again, it's the NY Post. They are going to be anti-Cuomo, anti-D.

I was honestly wondering how true this was. If it's not true, or if the article is shaded (which I suspect), then I'm sure a TH poster will be around to correct it.
Which is fine. I actually just want the truth.

 

Some potential good news

Covid Patients Testing Positive After Recovery Aren’t Infectious, Study Shows

 

That's reassuring. On a side note I really hope the antibodies last a long time after getting infected. I'm so ready for this crap to be over as soon as possible.

 

100mil people in China are back in lockdown today after Covid flared back up after they lifted restrictions. I really wish I had any faith in our govt to handle this properly, whatever that may entail

 

Cuomo=democrat, DeSantis=republican, enough for some here.

 

The sailors on the Theodore Roosevelt should be a good test case for this. 13 of them tested positive, but if none of them have symptoms that would be a good sign.

 

You know you can edit a post, you don't have to put up a similar post for each spelling error.

 

NYC hospitals did not have the capacity to accept any patient who was not very acute. This is the type of thing that could happen if a healthcare system is being overwhelmed or is expected to be overwhelmed.

We're doing the same thing in California. NH's generally have the capability and capacity to accept isolation patients. As far as I know, there has been minimal reports of cases of nursing home staff or patients being infected by known infected patients. It's primarily the staff and patients who you do NOT know has the disease who've been spreading them.

 

Not sure if you were active on this board prior to Covid, but Desantis had a pretty good approval rating on this board from posters on all sides. Most surprisingly so.

So perhaps he just hasn't done a good job with Covid, instead of thinking something partisan is happening here.

 

A product of being a free society is that it’s a lot harder to just lockdown the country and strip everyone of their rights. Thank god.

 

We are no more free than a lot of other countries in this world. What we have here is people conflating freedom with selfishness.

 

that seems to be a such a minor change. When it drops by 10% + to get under that 5.5 number will be cause for applause. The last 20 days +/0- have been remarkably consistent but sad to say, I don't trust the death numbers anymore when I see what is happening here in Florida. I can only imagine it is happening elsewhere too. Politics should not be manipulating data and that seems to be occurring more and more often if there is any bit of subjectivity to be interjected into the analysis

 

I'll preface this by saying that this is not a widely accepted theory by the medical community, but my suspicion is that this virus' spread is STRONGLY attenuated by weather. The effect of heat and humidity on COVID has already been demonstrated in the lab, and at least IMO the spread pattern thus far has clearly demonstrated that there's an optimal temperature zone that this virus prefers. It seems that ~50-60 degree weather is the optimal temperature for this virus, and all else being equal, a region's cases rise and fall as it enters and exits that temperature range.

In China the initial outbreak was in Wuhan in central China, and now a second wave is hitting the northeast. In the US the midwest is declining at a slower pace than the northeast. The outbreak didn't hit the south until the region was exiting that zone so we never had a big spike. India is doing fairly well despite very high population density and difficulties in enacting a lockdown as they were never in that zone before being seeded. Southeast Asia is far less affected than Northeast Asia for the same reason. In Europe Italy was in the optimal temperature zone, then it moved to the UK, then Russia as they entered the optimal temperature zone. In Brazil they did quite well initially despite little effort to stop the spread, but now they're getting slammed as they start to enter that zone.

If my theory is correct, we should see relatively few cases through the summer, with a second wave hitting in the fall, stabilize a bit in the winter (except the south), and rise up more during spring before dying down again next summer. States that don't spend many days in that zone, e.g. Florida, should never be hit very hard relative to the mitigation efforts.

This would mean that if cases in a region isn't falling a lot during summer should expect a large resurgence when temperatures cool.

I'll admit though that it's possible I'm suffering from confirmation bias, since I did from the start state that I expect a second wave in the fall and that's what concerns me more than the first wave that we're facing now.

 

There should have been hotels or other properties identified for these patients to transfer into. NY rescinded the order, California softened to the point that it doesn't appear that any are returning with positive tests, and NJ requires the facility to guarantee that it has capacity to separate, isolate, and safely treat with proper PPE.

New York will no longer require nursing homes to take COVID-19 patients from hospitals

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo unveiled a requirement for hospital patients to test negative for the coronavirus before they can be discharged to nursing homes, effectively reversing a much-criticized state policy that required long-term care facilities to accept recovering patients who may still test positive for COVID-19.

 

https://www.cmaj.ca/content/cmaj/ea...mic: a prospective cohort study (pdf warning)

 

It's an open market, so I'm just improving on your work a bit . Ha - j/k.

 

78 degrees in Rio today. I think temp and humidity helps if not in close proximity. Likely reduces the time the viral load is in the air but has little impact on how long it lasts on a surface.

 

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Improve on perfection?

 

Per the article, nursing homes were REQUIRED to accept Covid 19 patients being discharged, per the NY and NJ governors orders.
And the nursing homes couldn't even ask if the patients had the virus- due to fears of discrimination.

While I'm sure it was chaotic in NY (to put it mildly), it seems insane to put known Covid patients in with THE most vulnerable group imaginable.
That sounds, to me, like pouring fuel on the fire.

I would agree that this needs to be studied to see if this order was a contributing factor. I could be wrong and this was all fine and good.
But to me- its seems like the worst thing that could be done.