Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Why?

 

Lot of deaths from killer windows throwing people out from great heights

 

Not necessarily. The right to bear isn't one that necessarily means anytime any place. Indeed, it was about specific instances, i.e. to put down insurrections, so there certainly can be limitations in that way. But let me ask, if people have a right, say to protest on your street, and a bunch of armed protesters, some to the teeth, stood outside your house protesting you, would you think this was *peaceful*?

 

That depends, are they saying I'm a tyrant, and that the tree of liberty needs to be watered with the blood of tyrants?

 

We've talked about this chart a lot. It has been used to try to show a huge decline in the case numbers for Georgia. But the chart of no use. It doesn't include a lot of recent cases. As of right now, there are 795 new cases in Georgia today. If you want to show that numbers are actually declining in Georgia, you need to show the actual numbers.

 

Texas set a new case high by 20 percent again today.

 

Yeah Texas surpassed 2000 new cases today. People aren't distancing as much and this is the result.

 

We talk much about the statistics showing the deaths among vulnerable people. We don’t see numbers of people with permanent lung damage or other organ damage.

 

I was at the Boathouse on lake LBJ Friday. Not a single waiter or bar staff had a mask.

It’s not like that everywhere but it is out there.

 

Because it is good news.

 

more good news. Sorry to ruin your night

 

more good news. Not good news for the doom and gloomers though.

 

I dislike/disagree with a lot of things that the constitution protects. I just question the term "domestic terrorist"

 

Those trying to shoot down states that have opened by talking about a rise in positives need to also account for the increased number of tests contributing to that number. Georgia has more than doubled testing recently. Are deaths spiking? Are % of tests showing positive spiking? If so we have a problem. If not then we are moving in the right direction.

 

here are todays numbers. new cases 26,692 deaths 1,595 both better than any of the previous 4 fridays, and people may freak out about high numbers in texas, but there were almost 380,000 tests, 2nd highest ever today, so higher positives is expected. the weekly number, from 5/9-5/15 are as follows 2,330.179 tests done average of 332,882 a day. 157,780 positive tests, average of 22,540 a day deaths 9,892 average of 1,413 a day. i compared this week to the week of 4/18-4/24 1,020,810 tests done average of 145,830 a day 201,309 positives average of 28,758 a day deaths 14,743 average of 2106 a day. so as you can see, weekly tests are more than doubled, weekly and daily positives are down, as are weekly and daily deaths. plus, the week of 4/18-4/24 the % of positive tests was about 14%, this week it was about 7%, so we are really making headway here.

 

Georgia’s numbers are all over the news in Georgia. It is falsifying it’s reporting and got caught. Wish it wasn’t true.
Georgia's latest errors in reporting COVID-19 data confounds critics

 

Anyone that suggests people are sad about good news is being an ass.

There's a huge difference between wishing people get sick and die, and questioning numbers and digging deeper.

 

not at all. People like to be able to say “I told you so”. It’s like you are hoping you are right so Trump gets lambasted.

 

Yes, people are hoping that others die in order to get one over on the other side. Get real. Anyone that would ever think that (and conversely anyone that is so paranoid they'd accuse others of doing that) are sick in the head. Nice talking to you.

 

Why is it a competition? Post good news, no one is mad by that, but the Georgia chart was silly. And keep in mind it takes time for the cases to rise again, as I posted earlier.
Some of the jaded responses are also from the history of this thread. No one wants to go back and read 550 pages, but if you did you would see people underestimating this at every point. One poster (now gone) claimed it was all overstated and we would top out at 2k deaths. The next one said we wouldn’t get to the H1N1 mortality number, and to let him know when we got to 12k. Then it was bad, but basically the flu. Then it was a bad flu season, then the numbers were being fudged, now it’s charts that say something very different than what people claim they do.
Let’s all see where we are in a month or so as states open up. Cases are going to rise, just a question on whether it’s a nominal (manageable) rise From where we would have been or a geometric one. But more contact means more infections, there’s really no way around it.