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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. buckeyegator

    buckeyegator Premium Member

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    what i am doing is showing that the numbers drop every day of the week compared to the previous 4 weeks, and in doing so, its shows, if you fol;low dropping numbers day by day that the weekly numbers are also dropping, which is what we want, is it not?
     
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  2. RealGatorFan

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    But let's say Bright is right. So if you listen to him and Fauci, we shouldn't open things up until 2021. We will never have enough tests. No country will for a long time. I've already proven that by posting stats that even the best country only tested about 11% of their population. Add up every country's tests including ours and it only accounts for 15% of the US population. Not only that, but all of these countries have to reset back to zero every 3 weeks because you have to re-test the same people that previously tested negative. In short, for the US to have enough tests, you need nearly 330,000,000 tests every 3 weeks. You can shave off a few million since we've test about 11m but 90% of them were negative any way.

    So what does it mean to prepare? For a vaccine? The FDA has to approve every vaccine manufacturing plant before they are allowed to mass produce vaccines. That process takes nearly 6 months for each plant. The HHS and CDC has no authority over who and what produces the vaccines. All they can do is guide but the authority is actually all private manufacturers. So Bright has no authority to tell any manufacturer what to do. But to prep for vaccines, there's not much firms can do now other than get the basic supplies ready. But they can't go out and buy ingredients until the formula is released. The other thing is time and money. You can mandate that a firm triples the number of employees and pay them until the formula is ready and that firm is going to give you a big FU because they expect to be compensated for the multi billions in losses that they can't recoup and may never recoup. Maybe they could do it if they raise prices extensively on all drugs they manufacture. Maybe the government can bail them out. Not an easy plan to draw up and the last I read, Bright never indicated he had a plan. Let's see his plan since all he's done is poopoo everyone else.

    Proverb says if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
     
  3. buckeyegator

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    before today, in the last 4 thursdays, the lowest death total was 2129, thus today was 4,000 less than any of them, a good sign, imo
     
  4. buckeyegator

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    if you like, i can start doing a week by week comparison, going from saturday to friday.
     
  5. GatorGuyDallas

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    We want dropping numbers, yes. You’d be better off comparing weekly totals over time rather than same day of week. Far less random variation.
     
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  6. dangolegators

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    that would be 400 less, not 4,000 less.
     
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  7. GatorGuyDallas

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    I stopped reading there. Not true. There are indicators for opening up, not dates. Why lie?
     
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  8. RIP

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    The math doesn't check out. 1704 is 425 less than 2129.
     
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  9. LLCoolJ94

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    Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts
     
  10. gators81

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    I don’t think anyone’s griping about that. I think what several here are questioning is why you get so worked up at 4:30 in the afternoon that numbers haven’t been posted yet when 9pm has been the final posting for every day since this thing started. Also failing to realize that there are time zones to consider, as it was only what, 2:30 is Texas, at that point. How could they possibly have all the reporting in when there were still 7 more hours in the day? If Texas was still showing 84 deaths at 9pm your concern would make a lot more sense, but it was 4:30 in Florida when you were getting annoyed.
     
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  11. buckeyegator

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    yeah, math is not my strong point.
     
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  12. mdgator05

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    This article written by FT is terrifying and incredible at the same time. This is from dozens of interviews with a variety of public health people, Trump confidants, administration officials, etc. The whole thing needs to be read, but here is quite a pull quote given that quote he gave about testing on the last page:

    Subscribe to read | Financial Times

    FT is a very good source as well:

    Financial Times - Media Bias/Fact Check
     
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  13. LLCoolJ94

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    Indicators? The entire point of flattening the curve was to spread out the infections over a larger duration so as not to overwhelm the ability of the healthcare system. If you take the integrals under each curve, the areas are identical. Outside of NYC, I am unaware of any other healthcare system even remotely close to being overrun.
     
  14. GatorGuyDallas

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    Indicators from the guidelines the administration put out. When this and that happens you can take these steps towards reopening. When these additional things happen you can take these additional reopening steps. The guidelines don’t say 2021 as that poster exaggerated. I pointed that out. I’m not clear what you’re trying to point out c
     
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  15. mdgator05

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    New Orleans came within about 2 days of being completely overrun.
     
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  16. docspor

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    it might be
     
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  17. buckeyegator

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    here are the last 4 weeks: 5/2-5/8 150,197 new cases, 11,052 deaths, 1,584,765 tests, average of 226,395 a day;;4/25-5/1 162,371 new cases, 10990 deaths, 1,354,885 tests, average of 193,555 a day;;4/18-4/24 201,309 new cases, 11,610 deaths, 1,195,606 tests, 170,800 daily average; 4/11-4/17, 203,162 new cases, 12,168 deaths, 1,023,436 tests, 146,205 a day average. so as you can see, new cases and deaths are going down, tests per week and day are going up. so far in 6 days this week, new cases 131,591, deaths 6,793, total weekly tests 1,655,275 average of 275,879 a day, again new cases down, deaths down weekly and daily tests up.
     
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  18. duchen

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    The right wing offers you it’s middle finger. They don’t give a damn about you.
     
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  19. duchen

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  20. duchen

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    Liars and frauds. No, nobody will believe him. They don’t care about his lies.