UPDATE: Ahmaud Arbery's 3 murderers all found guilty. Sentenced to LIFE in prison.

There’s a Blazing Saddles quote in here somewhere.

 

Damn, Glynn County, what are you doing? The police chief was indicted in February.

https://thebrunswicknews.com/news/l...-TpK3gfux_doJcaklgR0DRLi_l4BhZtrlU4mJYA__cyPM

The Glynn County police chief and three former members of the county police leadership face a combined 20 charges in an indictment issued Thursday night by a county grand jury.

Arrest warrants were issued as a result of the indictment for Glynn County Police Chief John Powell, Vidalia Police Chief Brian Scott, and former Glynn County Police Department officers David Haney and David Hassler.

The charges stem from a scandal that emerged early last year regarding a former Glynn County police narcotics officer who had sexual relations with a confidential informant. The case later revealed the possible suppression of information in a police chase involving the Glynn-Brunswick Narcotics Enforcement Team that resulted in a fatality.

Powell faces four counts of violation of oath by a public officer, two counts of influencing a witness and one count of criminal attempt to commit perjury. Scott, Powell’s chief of staff at the time, is charged with two counts of violating his oath and one count each of influencing a witness and criminal attempt to commit perjury.

 

Has anyone here had a gun pulled on him or her in a threatening way? I have in the 1990’s.

I was driving at around 1:00 a.m. on the way to a drop to pick up a newspaper route to deliver. I went through a yellow light that went red before I made it though the intersection. I looked up in the rear view mirror and saw headlights and thought “hope that isn’t the police”.

The car went through the light behind me and pulled up next to me. The passenger side window came down and a hand with a pistol come out pointing the gun at me from about six feet away.

I slammed the breaks and put the car in reverse and backed away, turned the car around and fled. They didn’t pursue.

It was many months before a set of headlights at night didn’t affect me.

Any judgement of how the victim acted when bring threatened with a gun should be informed that for any untrained civilian, that is going to be pure instinct. The cause of the death was the guy with the gun, not the victim’s instinct when confronted.

 

Scary incident. Glad you got out of it safely, and completely agree that anyone who has not been in a situation with the life truly threatened has no way to know how they would react in that type of situation.

I still don't get how anyone can try to justify the baseless hunt and murder of this young man.

 

My experience was somewhat a function of my job. Bad things happen at night. A guy that worked for me back then in Houston had his car stolen at gunpoint at a newspaper drop.

I don’t know what it is like to raise sons and have to explain to them that the color of their skin is going to make them a target and have to teach them how to be safe because of that simple fact.

 

Interesting that "you don't have a dog in the hunt" yet you posted about 8 times and went into the archives years back to find cases where black people intentionally killed white people? You ask, I think, what about those cases relative to today's situation.

None of those cases you cited involved the state refusing to arrest the accused. We all understand that there are racist white people AND racist black people. Yet the black racist were immediately arrested and sentenced - appropriately. The white people, in this case, would not have been arrested but for release of this video and public outrage.

As I have said before, it does not matter if Maud was white or black or that his attackers were in terms of a criminal trial. It DOES matter to society that we recognize that we have a ways to go in how we (individually and institutionally) treat people of color - that if you kill a black person you are twice as likely to be exonerated on "self defense" than if you kill a white person. And that if a black person is killed by white people on camera, local cops and prosecutors can sweep the case under the rug for months unlike the cases you cite where the black people were arrested immediately (and appropriately).

Being outraged over the handling of this case is not hypocrisy. However, pretending the cases you cited are analogous to this case is hypocritical when you look at how they were handled. The killers in all these cases are not important in my opinion, but the cases can be a mirror for us to see (or not) the biases that exist (or do not) in society. Those biases are based on income, sex, power, and yes race. Your citing of cases handled differently proves the same. Hope you can see this perspective?

 

I certainly have. I had a guy aim his loaded revolver with both hands at my face. I didn't react or make a move because the guy was a cop.

I had accidentally set off my home alarm system. I assumed that the alarm company let the police know it was a false alarm, but not so. A few minutes later, as I stepped out of my back bedroom, there was a cop in the hallway drawing a bead on me. I almost expected him to say, "Go ahead, make my day." But he seemed even more relieved than I was when he saw I wasn't a burglar.

 

I've seen nothing to change the opinion I had from the beginning. What newly revealed information changed yours? And btw, how do you know he wasn't a choir boy? And how is that relevant to his murder?

 

Yep. I was about 18 or 19 or so. There was a new kid in town from the midwest. He was the biggest kid that age I had ever seen at that point. He was the walking definition of "corn fed". He had some beef with someone the next county over.

One night, they decided that they were going to fight. I had a few beers and I never pass up a chance to watch something entertaining, so I decided that I would drive him to then meeting spot.

We get there and we are waiting, not really paying attention to our surroundings, when all of a sudden a guy stick a double barreled shotgun through my passenger window that was rolled down. The end of the barrel is inside my vehicle by a few inches. Coincidentally, it is also inches from the corn fed kids head. He froze. I froze. If that guy would have pulled the trigger, it would have gotten me, too. It was terrifying. Everyone thinks they have a plan until it happens to them.

In my early 20s, me and a buddy were coming home from Atlanta when his truck ran hot. We pulled off on the exit and there was one store on that exit. He wanted to put some water in the radiator but they didnt have a hose. There was a little flower shop next door with a hose, so he drove over there. While he was filling up with water, a guy in a big redneck truck pulled up. He told us to GTFO. While my buddy was telling him that he was just getting water and it was almost full, ole buddy pulled his pistol out and said, "I said NOW." He turned the water off, rolled the hose back up, and we got the hell out of there.

About a year later, I was with the same guy and he wanted me to go pick up this girl who was staying with her uncle. I sat by the road as he went and knocked on her window. Then I see him walking backwards around the house as the uncle followed him with a .270. He had knocked on the wrong window in the middle of the night.

 

This 100%. Unless the McMichaels new Arbery, including his name and rap sheet, it's completely irrelevant to the case. Which as far as I can tell, the McMichaels knew nothing about Arbery other that he was black, jogged in the neighborhood, and stopped at an house under construction for about 3 minutes before jogging off.

Apparently for the McMichaels, this was enough information to hunt down and kill Arbery. So what if Arbery had a past? In the moment, Arbery was doing nothing wrong except possibly a trespassing misdemeanor, and for his actions, Arbery was hunted down and killed like an animal. What's worse, is the local police don't do justice by Arbery and let his killers go, claiming it was justified!?!

How is this not blatant racism? How is the attempt to potentially justify what the McMichaels did because Arbery isn't perfect also not racism? And does seeing a black man job in the neighborhood and stop at a house under construction with no doors or windows truly a reason to kill anybody? Or even attempt a citizen's arrest? And why weren't the McMichaels hauled off to jail immediately instead of being free men for weeks until the video was released?

Calling this racism isn't an epic fail on the part of the liberals. It's the truth. What's an epic fail is believing this isn't racism, or believing an attempt to justify the McMichael's actions because Arbery didn't have a perfect past isn't racism. The facts in this case are a couple of white guys who had no idea of Arbery's past, saw a black guy jogging and checking out a house under construction, and figured the black guy had to be up to no good, which in the white guy's minds, gave them cause to hunt him down and kill him. Then a bunch of white cops and a white DA covered up the murder and called it justified.

 

In 1998 my wife & I were opening a bank account in St. Louis. We were in the lobby with our backs to the tellers. It was early & rainy & there were no other customers. 3 or 4 armed guys charged in & robbed it. They told us not to move. We sat there with our backs to them. But hey I got $100 put into my acct & was offered therapy.

 

NSIAP but here is the actual security footage of Arbery committing the heinous crime of misdemeanor trespass. The McMichaels are done.

 

None of which were ever touched. If you watch further he was in the building before and didn't do anything (unless I am missing something). I don't believe the owner of the property ever reported felony theft either.