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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. vaxcardinal

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  2. 96Gatorcise

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    That would 60,000 in 62 days (official 1st death Feb 29th)
     
  3. duchen

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    right now spain, italy, france, germany and the uk have about 100000 deaths. does anyone know the collective population of those countries compared to the usa?they also have only about 885000 recorded cases to the usa 950000.
     
  5. mutz87

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    Thanks Davis! I'll go back and fix in a bit. :)
     
  6. GatorGuyDallas

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    Try Google. I’m thinking European Population would work.
     
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  7. buckeyegator

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    those 5 countries have about 325 million population, less than the usa, less cases and many more deaths, guess we are doing something right
     
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  8. duchen

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    Social distancing is helping. Italy started too late and its hospitals were overwhelmed.
     
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  10. tilly

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    Yeah, I remembered. I addressed it a couple posts back.
     
  11. tilly

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    LOL. I wasn't. I was saying IF they were the same, I would still get on I-95 and head south. I know that 4 people don't actually dies in wrecks after every Gators home game.
     
  12. tilly

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    Buckeye. The weeks are adding up now. thus making the average data equal out. You can take 8 weeks of deaths, divide it by 56 days and come up with an average. You can do this in a rolling fashion and determine the curve. Even with the errors in weekend reporting.
     
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  13. tilly

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    GK, what in the world does a virus have to do with the economy before it?

    The economy was strong. (I don't tend to credit politicians, though they will take credit), but it is odd to say that since the economy is struggling during a pandemic that somehow means it wasn't good before. The two are completely unrelated.

    I also challenge that the economy is not as bad as some think and will bounce back. The stimulus has kept most paychecks coming, and unemployment in many states is paying MORE than their salary. Couple that with people sitting on that money because there is nowhere to spend it and I think there will be a lot of spending capital sitting around when we reopen.

    But, I am puzzled as to how you can judge the economy previous to the current situation.
     
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  14. tilly

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    I was thinking the same thing...lol
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  15. tilly

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    I should be good. 4 weeks of outdoor honey-do-listing. ;)
     
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  16. mutz87

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    :)

    Maybe good news, maybe not as good as we might hope given how questionable it is that the true numbers are even as close as the various studies seem to suggest. If it's somewhere in the middle as you suggested earlier--which I agree since we know there are cases out there that have not been confirmed--in a way we can say it's better compared to what has been confirmed, but it's sill pretty bad along this particular issue (it's bad for those other reasons too, ie no vaxx etc.).

    The below table shows another comparison by weeks/months. Make of it what you will but given how many (and how many more) Covid-19 deaths have occurred in such a short period of time compared to the flu deaths, it looks considerably worse, and would still look worse even if as extrapolated NY numbers nationally were found to be valid.
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    1. Seasonal flu starts in Oct, peaks in Feb, and ends in Apr (with random cases throughout the rest of the year).

    2. I could not find daily death numbers from the flu, so I distributed death counts (N=35,520,883) proportionally according to the weekly & monthly positive flu cases provided by the CDC.

    3. Covid-19 *Weeks* are based off of the Feb 20th first case, although we know now that there were cases before this.

    *Sidenote: There is no doubt there are many more positive cases that we don't know about. How many we do not know. But I have serious doubts that they are close to what the various studies/tests extrapolations, other than perhaps exposure with a low viral load might explain why so many might have had Covid-19, but did not report it/get tested.
     
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    Trolllllololol
     
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    That's good news, but you better get your vitamin D supplement now if you don't already have it. It'll be gone from the shelves if it's not already. I have about a month left of my omega 3/vitamin D supp, but I just put an order in for another bottle.
     
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  19. gatorknights

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    To quote Maynard:

    You are darkness
    Trying to lull us in, before the havoc begins
    Into a dubious state of serenity
    Acting all surprised when you're caught in the lie
    We know better
    It's not unlike you
    It's not unlike you
    We know your nature
    A business degree from UF (maybe we've heard of it) and 30+ years analyzing markets makes me able and qualified to judge the economy. UF thought I could, FNMA thought I could, Freddie thought I could, HUD thought I could, the State of Florida thought I could, they all put their money where my mouth was. For decades. If I didn't know what I was talking about I wouldn't have lasted 30 years, I wouldn't have lasted 30 days. If my services were even engaged in the first place. I was issued a diploma, multiple state licenses, inclusions on the largest lenders approved appraiser lists based on submitted work product over and over and over again.

    Documented proven fact. But applying DJT logic, what do I know Sergeant? The economy was on thin ice, and all it would take was a tempest to crash it. We got two, DJT then the virus. Talk about TDS, those that cling to his jock are the biggest sufferers of it.
     
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