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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    It fits here. But I am sure glad I am not the one that has to chose what "statistic" is acceptable to restart the economy. I'll keep my day job and leave that terrible chore to someone else. :(
     
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  2. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Excellent point. That is an often unintentionally ignored point in this. A large number have underlying conditions or simply age considerations that lead us to the fact that we would have lost them regardless. Not sure how you figure that in the middle of the pandemic, but surely someone can come up with a way.

    This would be a very needed metric in weighing the cost.
     
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  3. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    ...wait, couldn't we just get that info.....from you?! :devil:

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  4. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    Agreed - let's be kind and peaceful. This is, after all, our beloved Too Hot site that we share and cherish.
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  5. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

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    Clearly will be more deaths than 50,000 in 4 or so weeks. With social distancing, particularly in cities. And the numbers do not take into account the effect of overrun hospitals etc.

    And the percentages are questionable.
     
  6. philnotfil

    philnotfil GC Hall of Fame

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    Two weeks ago it was only 390 deaths. Where would it be without closing things down?
     
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  7. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    It's all questionable at this point. It's really surreal to think that just 7 weeks ago, I was arguing that we were a lock for the tournament, was excited about a Lightning playoff run and stoked that Spring Training was underway, I was moving into a remodeled office at work and had plans to celebrate by birthday at our favorite spot.

    Now there is no sports, my office has boxes still unpacked and my favorite spot is locked tight.

    What the holy crap has happened?!

    But man, our remodel work on our house has gotten WAY ahead of schedule...lol
     
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  8. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    1 in 5 in NYC, that is not a national number
     
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  9. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    Hey Mutz - couple of quick pts. Jan - April would be three months, more than 66 days. The H1N1 spike must have occurred beyond the date range you list, as most estimates show 12,500 U.S. deaths. I had this discussion with @philnotfil, who compared the first 100 days of C19 and H1N1. The H1N1 spike did not occur until late fall. It was still not nearly as deadly as what we are seeing now.
    How does the COVID-19 pandemic compare to the last pandemic? | Live Science
     
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  10. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    Death panels to establish acceptable mortality rates?? :ninja2: ....runs and hides....
     
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  11. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

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    updated states as of 1 pm edt so there are some deaths from today in this sheet.
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  12. buckeyegator

    buckeyegator Premium Member

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    no, the second week with the over reporting would also be flawed, thus 2 straight flawed weeks
     
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  13. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    Oh, I'm definitely guilty of being snarky and sarcastic. It's a specialty of mine. :devil:
    I tend to project my snark specifically, though. ;)
     
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  14. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    Can you please graph the death rate per reported cases over the last 6 - 8 weeks ?
     
  15. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    Ok - I apologize if I took your use of the term "experts" out of context. I thought you were unfairly criticizing a host of people w/o specifically citing who or what you were criticizing. Again - apologies. The meme had to do with "wrecks" which you did analogize to C19. I don't tend to try and be offensive. Snarky? Sure. Annoying? Can't help it.
     
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  16. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    I think we all need to sit NY over in a corner in a lot of ways. They are inflating some of the data as the NY/NJ metro is almost half of the numbers.
    At the same time, that means the antibody results are also likely on the high end compared to a city like mine.

    Has anyone done a comprehensive study of metrics excluding NYC metro?

    If NYC epicenter did not exist in the equation or was it's own nation, would we be looking at this different as a Nation?
     
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  17. buckeyegator

    buckeyegator Premium Member

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    i did not say if you bothered to read the post that the last day of every week,, and the first day of the next week would be under and over reported, just 2 weeks, pointing out that weekly stats are also prone to being misleading.
     
  18. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    It's all good man. But when did I equate Covid to wrecks?
     
  19. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

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    I haven't been saving the sheet on a daily basis. So I don't have that data, if you know where it is send me a link and I will see what I can do.
     
  20. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

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    After thinking about it, I do have the pdfs that I post every day, I can go look at those.