Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

No - when you label people as you did, you are mocking people.

 

The primary requirement to opine in this forum is the ability to opine. The "expert" slam is just that, a slam.

 

If the spread rate is that high, there is nothing we can do to stop hospital overloading except stay in our houses until there is a vaccine (which isn't really feasible for over a year). This thing started from an extremely small group of seeds and grew to where multiple places were on the borderline of that point in a couple of months. Given that we are discussing sending people out with a whole bunch more seed points and most of them not knowing that they have it, that growth rate, even if it is slowed somewhat by the lack of events (which basically means no events for at least a year probably) and a few other techniques, we would still likely see growth until we are back at the same point again within a few months. Maybe summer slows it (although that is questionable) but that would mean it would come back more when the weather cooled. If the spread rate is that high (we're talking an R0 in the mid- to upper 3s), I don't see how this doesn't end in a quarter million deaths nationally total with pretty strict rules that will continue to hurt the economy.

 

Every covid thread in a nutshell.

 

More about the virus causing strokes

Young and middle-aged people, barely sick with covid-19, are dying from strokes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

 

This type of information is what makes this scary - too scary to just open up. We just don't know what we are dealing with. They started a vaccine trial in the UK a couple days ago, fingers crossed it's the magic pill.

 

Coronavirus spreads to Trump country
Interesting. Common sense on where virus takes initial hold but still a good read.

Some worry that Trump’s early attempts to downplay the virus, amplified by Fox News hosts for months, coupled with the coronavirus’s slow arrival, have made conservative rural voters skeptical that it poses a real threat. Trump’s own remarks may have lulled his base voters into a false and dangerous sense of security.

 

we do not know much...is everyone with antibodies, then candidates to contribute plasma?
Are all antibodies equal in quality and quantity? IF, we actually have 6% of the population with antibodies, and we experience another round of community spread in the fall, might we experience fewer cases and fewer deaths? Might the coronavirus mutate and infect those with antibodies and make existing plasma therapy obsolete?

 

Again, this is why the whole world shut down in a near panic. We have now a TOTAL of maybe 4 months of study of this virus. At most. We have battled the flu for over a century and are barely holding our own. It is absurd to think that in less than half a year we would be able to conquer this new virus.

 

I don’t get it. It’s a list where everything in yellow is repeated in grey. What’s the joke?

 

I'm not following your logic at all. If the first day of each week has deaths from the last day of the previous week, then all weeks are equal. Only the very first week where the last day was under reported would be flawed.

 

You have to understand that the goal is to weaken trust in the belief that things can be known.

 

...and who is being snarky and sarcastic now?

I never said that btw.

 

Well it wasn't aimed at you personally as you were not the first or only person to push back...and I thought the "joking" disclaimer and winky faces were a clue.

But like I said. You wanna fight so....enjoy.

 

Davis... what the heck man? Your twisting my words. I was literally quoting another posters use of the word "experts". I was referring to a small number that were using ridiculous numbers...just as people have done to those insisting this is the flu. Both sides have "experts" making silly claims. And yes, I mock his use of that word.

I mean have we lost our ability to have even a slight since of humor? Are winks and smiles not showing up?

I used the word "experts" with a wink. I was mocking the notion that anyone here is an expert.

Why would I lie about that and why is it so important to call me on it?

Was your little meme above accusing me of citing lightning strikes (which I never did!) Not just a joke, or am I to be offended and take it seriously?

I am not offended by the way. Just pointing out the irony.

...and I still think former military teachers should be armed.....runs away giggling

 

Lol...of course some will take you seriously and not think this is funny.

 

So as of yesterday, Florida has 1,046 deaths according to Worldmeter. We have 21.5 million residents in Florida. The odds of dying of coronavirus as of yesterday in the state of Florida is .0048%. The states that aren’t having hot spots should be reopening with social distancing still in place starting soon. The goal was to not overrun the hospitals and that hasn’t happened anywhere in the US as of yet. This isn’t not caring for other people or brazen. Elderly and people with underlying conditions should continue to isolate. We can’t wait for a perfect time to open back up. It’s not going to easy or perfect but it needs to be done. If a business wants to stat closed that’s up to them. The ones that want to open go ahead and open up.

 

We are also going to have to come to grips with the facts that pandemics happen. They've happened before and will happen again in the future. They suck. Losing loved ones hurts. But shutting down the entire economy and printing $2,000 checks every month to send to everybody in the U.S. is not a viable solution. The country will be worse off for it.

 

I assume I get blasted here...so I hesitate to say...

But there is good news here right? I mean even if the rate is double what the antibodies say we have. Lower number than we feared.

Right?

 

Dude...I literally quoted another posters use of the word for posters. I put it in quotes with a wink. Are you an expert? Am I? Is it a slam to say none of us are experts?

People keep saying things like " I think I will defer to an expert and not some dude on a message board" and we all agree that is true.

But seriously some of you are wound pretty tight lately.

Let it go. My comment was general and not aimed at anyone. Just the notion that message board posters saying ridiculous numbers are "experts".