Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!
  1. Gator Country Black Friday special!

    Now's a great time to join or renew and get $20 off your annual VIP subscription! LIMITED QUANTITIES -- for details click here.

Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

    14,280
    5,280
    3,208
    Nov 25, 2017
    He is a mathematician whose numbers have been repudiated by epidemiologists in Israel. Your right wing source took from the article in Israel and left out the repudiation. I will locate it for you. That is the problem with relying on the purveyors of falsity.
     
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2020
    • Informative Informative x 1
  2. GCNumber7

    GCNumber7 VIP Member

    5,828
    417
    518
    Apr 3, 2007
    upload_2020-4-24_9-34-38.jpeg
     
    • Funny Funny x 11
  3. slayerxing

    slayerxing GC Hall of Fame

    4,989
    852
    2,078
    Aug 14, 2007
    What's amazing about this thread is you can see the evolution of all of these and then see equally how easy right-wingers have simply moved from one new talking point to the next without even feeling bad that they were wrong about the previous one.
     
    • Agree Agree x 5
    • Like Like x 2
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
  4. 96Gatorcise

    96Gatorcise GC Hall of Fame

    15,716
    26,020
    3,363
    Aug 6, 2008
    Tampa
    • Informative Informative x 1
  5. flgator2

    flgator2 Premium Member

    6,721
    688
    2,113
    Apr 3, 2007
    Gainesville
    What's funny is the expert's you guys believe if a person did actually inject this and died it was still be classified from the Coronavirus
     
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
  6. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Here's the thing Mutz. The answer is starting to fall somewhere in the middle.

    Yes. This disease is more contagious and yes social distancing kept numbers down for that fact.

    ...BUT with the death rate now appearing to be MUCH lower than originally thought we may find the total shutdown was a big overreaction. My town, a decent mid size city, has been relatively untouched. Yet we have restrictions equal to NYC.

    This antibodies result should be the headline in the COVID-19 narrative at the moment...but CNN has basically had it buried below political attacks.
    FOX had it on top yesterday, but has buried it.

    Good news is no news right now. It is very weird.

    So, I disagree that we have been "had", but think our media needs to start speaking more clearly about the actual metrics here.

    All they want to discuss are press conference foolishness and how evil protestors who may need their jobs back are.

    We have not been "had", but I think we are being misinformed at this point.

    Equal out the reporting. Stop trying to create narratives. Stop fighting with each other (FOX and CNN). They have more articles about each other than they do antibodies testing.
     
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 2
    • Winner Winner x 1
  7. flgator2

    flgator2 Premium Member

    6,721
    688
    2,113
    Apr 3, 2007
    Gainesville
    Isn't that how they're coming up with all these models by math,that would be a yes. And those models have been wrong from the start . You just keep believing those faults models and I'll believe mine
     
  8. ncargat1

    ncargat1 VIP Member

    14,458
    6,323
    3,353
    Dec 11, 2009
    Even on small sample sizes, there would be no straight forward comparisons. For example, there are countless elderly developments and retirement homes in and around NY/NJ. As expensive as land is, would be stunned if there even was a retirement home in Santa Clara. In other words, populations being sampled are dramatically different.
     
  9. g8trjax

    g8trjax GC Hall of Fame

    5,195
    450
    293
    Jun 1, 2007
    There is no good news. Everyone dies and no one ever recovers. :cool:
     
  10. flgator2

    flgator2 Premium Member

    6,721
    688
    2,113
    Apr 3, 2007
    Gainesville
    I'll be honest I've read so many articles and went back and forth with so many of you guys I forgot which new source, I'm usually real good about posting from which article I got it from but to be totally honest I can't remember
     
  11. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Let's not forget as recently as 2017, the flu killed 80k people and may have killed 60k in a similar time during its peak and that's with a vaccine and immunity. So using your analogy, perhaps this is similar to a (severe) flu, we just dont have the weapons to fight it yet.
     
  12. RIP

    RIP I like touchdowns Premium Member

    6,949
    1,979
    3,313
    Feb 2, 2015
    • Funny Funny x 1
  13. RIP

    RIP I like touchdowns Premium Member

    6,949
    1,979
    3,313
    Feb 2, 2015
    Like Louisville's 1000 cases total prediction and fever's prediction that we would peak by 4/1.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  14. VAg8r1

    VAg8r1 GC Hall of Fame

    21,037
    1,749
    1,763
    Apr 8, 2007
    The number of Covid-19 deaths will almost certainly surpass the number of the number of flu deaths during the 2017 within less than a month and that's comparing a period of three months (Covid-19) with a period of seven or eight months. There were an estimated 61,000 deaths during the 2017-18 flu season. We just passed 50,000 Covid-19 deaths in two months.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  15. 96Gatorcise

    96Gatorcise GC Hall of Fame

    15,716
    26,020
    3,363
    Aug 6, 2008
    Tampa
    Just pointing out the CDC estimates for 2017 flu deaths is 61,000 not 80,000. The 80,000 number comes from an article published in 2018 not from the current CDC website.
    Burden of Influenza
    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2020
    • Informative Informative x 1
  16. philnotfil

    philnotfil GC Hall of Fame

    17,730
    1,789
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    And how willing they are to keep believing the sources that told them the previous wrong things.

    If a source keeps giving you bad information, maybe it is time to look for a new source of information?
     
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
  17. GCNumber7

    GCNumber7 VIP Member

    5,828
    417
    518
    Apr 3, 2007
    Fortunately I learned not to believe charlatans a long time ago.
     
  18. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    The CDC raised the Flu number to 80k in 2017.
    CDC: 80,000 people died of flu last winter in the U.S. - STAT

    Some it had a very dangerous peak similar to Covid-19's run.

    I completely understand our need to limit spread as no immunity or vaccine exists...but honest journalism needs to start digging into more honest metrics.
     
    • Informative Informative x 2
  19. gatorpa

    gatorpa GC Hall of Fame

    11,676
    1,120
    698
    Sep 5, 2010
    East Coast of FL
    Numerous "stars" said they were moving if he won...
    • Amy Schumer.
    • Jon Stewart.
    • Miley Cyrus.
    • Keegan-Michael Key.
    • Lena Dunham.
    • Samuel L. Jackson.
    • Chloë Sevigny.
    • Bryan Cranston.
    • George Lopez.
    • Amber Rose.



    17 Celebrities Who Promised to Leave the Country If Trump Won

    Link gives detailed accounts
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • Best Post Ever Best Post Ever x 1
  20. fda92045

    fda92045 GC Legend

    585
    145
    1,973
    Feb 19, 2012
    Well if said person did inject themselves with that, the only reason they would do it is because trump suggested it as it would cure the virus...so technically, it should be classified as a death RELATED to coronavirus.