Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

The attending physician is not making that decision in some states, correct? He/She is being told to lump unknown deaths in.

 

The buck is supposed to stop at the President's desk. But we know Trump doesn't take any responsibility for anything bad. He said so himself.

Two wrongs still don't make a right. Pelosi can be wrong about Chinatown and that doesn't absolve anything wrong Trump did.

What Trump says and tweets matters. He is the President. Saying it was just one case or 15 soon to be zero were huge mistakes. Just like tweeting support to those wanting to "liberate" states. It will likely cost people their lives. Opening up too soon is like stopping to take antibiotics after 6 days because you feel better even though the doctor and pharmacist warned you to complete the full, 10-day treatment.

 

Doctors I've talked with suspect that the testing is inadequate there. Essentially many more people have it. It will be interesting to see how that impacts the case rate going forward. If that's true, there's less people to have it spread to (depending on re-infection rates, of course).

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

 

you can be a Chinese traveler with a US, Taiwan, S. Korean, or any other passport and fly in from Wuhan, or an American, Italian, Greek, Brazilian...traveler and fly in directly from Wuhan. Anybody other than Chinese passport holders could fly in directly from Wuhan. Do we agree on that?

Any Chinese passport holder from Wuhan could also fly to , Taiwan, or any other airport outside of China and then fly directly to US.

edit - deleted Hong Kong. Mainland China flights to Hong Kong were halted prior to admin travel ban

There were literally thousands of people flying into the US from Wuhan while the "travel ban" was in effect

 

Direct flights from China brought 40k to U.S. after Trump coronavirus travel ban

 

Wow. That is a crazy stat. Is there a link to read more?

 

Makes sense, and may point to a more even mortality rate had all those cases been realized.

 

This is just deflection. On Feb 24 Pelosi encouraged people to come to Chinatown. 2 days later, on Feb 26, Trump said we would soon be down to 'close to 0' cases. At the time no one was talking about shutting everything down, certainly not Trump. That has little to do with the fact that Trump had us woefully unprepared for the pandemic.

 

why not just accept the german tests instead of insisting on developing our own? Who made that decision? Who supported it? Who opposed it?

 

Presidents have a lot of power. If he was pushing for a ton of tests early, and asking for how we can get it despite the screwups, they would have ramped testing faster. There were good tests available. We chose not to buy them as a country. He didn't push hard to understand the entire process and understand where there might be choke points and try to push for solutions to those issues (i.e., he could have pushed for swab production or reagent development from industry either utilizing the law or threatening the use of the law early on). Getting ahead of a problem has never actually been his style because there is no PR victory to being ahead of an issue. He has been behind on problems consistently.

 

Unfortunately, the person in charge held a rally with a crowd a full week later. Was that a smart thing to do?

 

I am sure all of us can find stupid things that the party we are against, individuals we are against have done,lets just say both parties, trump, Pelosi,et al are all in some way at fault and move on.

 

Interesting info graphic:
How the coronavirus disrupts food supply chains

 

What information did the executive branch of the. government give her about the virus spread in San Francisco during the last week in February?

 

At the time nothing was being canceled anywhere. Mardi Gras took place at that same time. Trump was holding rallies. With hindsight it would have been better if large events had been cancelled. But no one was calling for that. And it didn't help that we had a president who was downplaying the threat by saying stuff like we'd soon be down to 0 cases, and it was like the flu, and you could go to work with it. And now he's telling people to liberate their states -- essentially telling them to ignore the social distancing measures that states and localities have put in place. It's inexcusable.

 

Autopsies find first U.S. coronavirus death occurred in early February, weeks earlier than previously thought

At least two people who died in early and mid-February had contracted the novel coronavirus, health officials in California said on Tuesday, signaling that the virus may have spread — and claimed lives — in the United States weeks earlier than previously thought.

Tissue samples taken from two individuals who died in Santa Clara County, Calif., tested positive for the virus, local health officials said in a statement. One of the victims died on Feb. 6, and the other died on Feb. 17.

 

No, the attending physician is ALWAYS the one responsible for determining the cause of death, unless an autopsy is done then the coroner determins the COD. It's not unusual AT ALL to name a suspected COD as opposed to a confirmed one. We always need to make a diagnosis whether the patient lives or dies. It actually kinda annoys me at times, because sometimes a diagnosis just isn't known, but that's the way it's always been.

 

Completely disagree with you, the states should have never been shut to begin with. People who tend to think like you should stay in your home with the doors locked. Like I've state many times this is like the flu, when they start putting the correct numbers you and others will see this was a huge overaction. If I'm wrong I'll admit it, but all the new studies coming out are starting to show other wise. Which is good for our country.