Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. dangolegators

    dangolegators GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 26, 2007
    Yeah Trump is responsible alright. He's responsible for the disastrous shortage of tests we are still experiencing.
     
  2. 96Gatorcise

    96Gatorcise GC Hall of Fame

    15,375
    25,955
    3,363
    Aug 6, 2008
    Tampa
    I agree with everything you said except for the top administration.
    The federal govt has been nothing but combative and dismissive from the start. Over promising and under delivering. The DPA should have been enacted the same day the national emergency was declared. There should have been more cooperation less denigration from the top. More leading less politicizing. That goes for all branches of the govt.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
    • Winner Winner x 1
  3. dangolegators

    dangolegators GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 26, 2007
    Has there ever been a worse response to a national emergency by a president than what we've seen with Trump? I certainly can't think of any recent examples.
     
    • Agree Agree x 5
  4. chemgator

    chemgator GC Hall of Fame

    13,193
    1,811
    1,318
    Apr 3, 2007
    Why are you blaming Trump for this? What has Trump done to prevent development and distribution of the test kits?

    I can tell you that the CDC lost three weeks in developing the test kits because they were not able to follow their own instructions. Was Trump supposed to personally supervise the idiot who was responsible for following instructions? Or was he supposed to drive the truck that delivered the test kits?

    There is plenty to criticize Trump over regarding his handling of COVID-19 (dithering with regard to shutting down the economy, unwillingness to recommend wearing a mask for a couple of months, etc.), but I don't see how testing rates are something to blame him for. We have an incompetent government organization in charge of developing a response to coronavirus, just like we had an incompetent government organization in 2001 investigating radical Arabs who wanted to learn how to fly commercial jets with no interest in learning how to take off or land.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  5. dangolegators

    dangolegators GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 26, 2007
    When Trump should have been mobilizing the federal government to prepare for the pandemic, he was telling everybody it was no big deal, that it was like the flu, that you could go to work with it, and that we would soon be down to near 0 cases. What did he do to get us ready?
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Winner Winner x 1
  6. coleg

    coleg GC Hall of Fame

    1,771
    763
    1,903
    Sep 5, 2011
    Actually I've only heard that impeachedpotus is responsibile for ... well ... nothing. But as for rolling out the tests... yes that is awesome.... if the date was Jan. 21st not April 21st. 15 cases to zero so why test at all, right? Way to completely drop the ball WH.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  7. chemgator

    chemgator GC Hall of Fame

    13,193
    1,811
    1,318
    Apr 3, 2007
    Interesting news that you knew was coming, but not this quickly: parents are giving up on educating their children after three weeks.

    "I just can't do this." Harried parents forgo home school

    What about college professors? They should be the last to have problems teaching their own kids, right?
    Ahh, the fetal position advanced lecture technique. Very modern education. Carry on!
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  8. LouisvilleGator

    LouisvilleGator GC Hall of Fame

    1,180
    189
    1,933
    Oct 16, 2012
    Frankly, that seems kind of nit picky as well, no offense intended. His shutting down of the economy was mostly in line with what we saw in other 1st world countries and unwillingness to recommend wearing a mask? Hell, I don't know about where you are but here you might see 1 out of 3 wearing a mask.
     
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
  9. vaxcardinal

    vaxcardinal GC Hall of Fame

    6,863
    1,038
    2,043
    Apr 8, 2007
    unless you're Hogan ;)
     
  10. chemgator

    chemgator GC Hall of Fame

    13,193
    1,811
    1,318
    Apr 3, 2007
    O.k., Trump should have been screaming hysterically about how dangerous coronavirus was. Did that cause the CDC employee to say, "Screw it, if the president can't scream on television about this virus, I'm gonna half-ass this test kit. I'll take a few short-cuts here and there, and then I can leave work early and buy a case of vodka and a case of rum to stock my cabinets and get through this. To hell with the damn instructions!"
     
  11. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

    122,210
    163,168
    116,973
    Apr 3, 2007
    And the last week of February the second in line to the Presidency was telling everyone it was okay to come party in Chinatown. That was a month after the first ban of Chinese travel from Wuhan. Glad she wasn't in charge.
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
  12. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    30,629
    11,806
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    context matters. that is a fact.
     
  13. buckeyegator

    buckeyegator Premium Member

    73,149
    1,931
    3,883
    Oct 29, 2007
    gainesville, florida
    wonder if her and her husband own real estate in Chinatown?
     
  14. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    30,629
    11,806
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    this is what happens when you fire all the competent people who disagree with you and promote all of the incompetent people who lick your boots. The problems generated by this lack of qualified professionals is not limited to the CDC, it is rampant across the executive branch and yes, the hiring decisions based on bootlicking ability is due to T
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  15. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    30,629
    11,806
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    the first ban of Chinese passport holders from Wuhan. That is a big difference from the first ban of Chinese travel from Wuhan. Regardless of that detail, if Pelosi was being briefed by the intel community like T was she was just as wrong
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  16. LouisvilleGator

    LouisvilleGator GC Hall of Fame

    1,180
    189
    1,933
    Oct 16, 2012
    Yes, indeed. Context matters and the United States have tested more than double the amount of any other nation on the planet.
     
  17. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    30,629
    11,806
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    and the shortage of PPE and the civil unrest against stay at home orders and....
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  18. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    30,629
    11,806
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    and how does that compare as a percentage to other countries. That is the context that you seem unable or unwilling to comprehend
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Winner Winner x 1
  19. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    How does that impact mortality rate? (Not arguing, just unsure.)
    NYC has a much higher death per infection rate then many places. Much higher than the rest of the state.
     
  20. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    30,629
    11,806
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    perhaps that is a function of the strain on the healthcare system and the people providing treatment.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1