Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

No. See New Zealand. People would have looked at Europe and Trump would have ensured his reelection.

 

How many people would have died then? Support your idea with facts and numbers.

You do realize that the virus is brought into (for example) nursing homes by those who catch it. So, by requiring only the most vulnerable to stay home, you would have had a minimal effect. Because, generally, somebody would care for them.

 

right now, at 6pm 23135 new cases today, the lowest since march 30 and the only semi large states left to report are colorado and washington, so, i ask, why the lowest number in nearly 3 weeks, 151,000 were tested today, above the normal number.

 

Please cite one, just one major politician from either party who was saying we should shut down the entire country in January. I can't even believe that is a discussion being held on a Gator forum.

 

Who is saying we should have shut down in January?

 

Nancy Pelosi wanted to shut down everything except San Fran’s Chinatown, where you were supposed to visit.

 

Set a new high for deaths today, but hopefully this is it.

 

I think closing down the big sports gatherings, concerts, and bars and busy restaurants was essential to containing this (and I'm not convinced it's a good idea to re-open any of that stuff yet, i feel states that are going the Georgia route are going to see major relapses in 2-3 weeks). They are talking bowling allies, movie theaters, MASSAGE PARLORS. Their governor has gone fully mental.

But I'm generally for the idea of letting most small businesses open back up, ok with jogging on the beach, less busy stores and mom and pop shops probably don't matter one way or the other in the grand scheme of things (i.e. with people still showing up at Publix and Wal-Mart in big numbers, who really cares if you go into a Staples or Best Buy with like 2 customers inside?). The main source of community spread is still surely the grocery stores.

In FL we have to worry about Disney World and the cruise ships. That type of stuff should be MONTHS away IMO.

It's like a life irony, that basically failed businesses with no customers are safe to re-open. But popular restaurants that pack people in, are the biggest risk to community spread of the virus.

 

Is it possible that the method that the center for disease control uses to determine causes of death isn’t related to Donald Trump?

 

It is not the CDC I'm concerned with. However, the CDC obviously did open up a loop hole where data could be easily manipulated.

 

With respect to Georgia reopening tattoo and massage parlors, how many believe the people who’ll avail themselves of these services were practicing the social distancing and other “pandemic spread minimization” practices previously in place?

 

An upside of social isoloation, I can attend my faculty senate meeting and post to too hot! Win-Win!

 

As long as I'm wearing a mask and she's wearing a mask, I don't see what the big deal is?

 

I think deep down many folks in high places like the NIH/CDC etc would have loved to be able to shut it down in January even while saying the public doesn't have to worry right now--i.e. back in Jan because this almost certainly would have made much more of a difference (not meant as retrospective but that is what they no doubt believed at the time).

But such an extreme early response wouldn't have gotten political support...for obvious reasons.

 

Funny, most everything you argue over is what Trump SAID.

What I point out, is what Trump DID. Those are the facts that count.

Give him some credit.

 

That, and her impeachment hearings.

Sigh.

 

Saying things is an action. False dichotomy. However, that seems like a pretty canned response to avoid facts that you don't want to acknowledge as I would point out that I listed 4 things and only 1 was exclusively something that he "said."

 

Well, there is a risk but the artist and customers are probably already taking those risks. Make sure the massage table has been cleaned!

On 4/13, I had a fairly substantial Mohs surgery to remove a basal cell cancer removed along the front of my right ear. It was no joy but the fourth such Mohs I’ve had on my face, and am accustomed to the routine. My wife says I’m getting a facelift on a piecemeal basis!!

I was willing to take the risk of the close contact because I knew the practice very well and felt safe having the procedure during this period of “social distancing”. However, there are other close contact services I would not use at the present time for fear of CV-18. With respect to the aforementioned services, I don’t do tattoos so that’s not a consideration for me and my wife is a physical therapist (PRN) so I never need a massage therapist.

 

I don't think this has much merit. Adults from all walls of life have tattoos. Doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc. I've been extremely vigilant with viral precautions and I'm covered with them. Also I think the wording of massage parlors is weird. That makes me think of seedy little back alley shops when they probably mean massage therapy businesses. I'm not accusing you of having a motive though.

 

In seriousness, I agree. Might not be such a happy ending after all if you get sick. That seems a bit much for right now, but in a way, I'm glad, because it will probably force other governor's hands to be more reasonable. (no pun intended) Like the Kentucky governor, for example, who is being ridiculous.