Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

I suppose it's a matter of perspective at this point. 2.2M was obviously an unacceptable number, even though that was explicitly stated "worst case."

BTW, that "worst case" was with NO changes. Including behavior by citizens without ANY formal restrictions. IOW, ALL people would carry on BAU. No focused resonse from the health community, etc. That is pretty much a non-starter, as even without gubmint intervention, surely SOME people would change behavior. Including the healthcare system. The only way 2.2M was in play is if literally no meaningful portion of the population did anything different. The "predicted" narrative some are professing is either profound misunderstanding, or more likely, willful agenda-pushing.

But in my view, informing the public that was the "worst case" was not only OK, but the exact right thing to do. Not telling me what COULD happen if I never adjust a thing is the worst kind of deceit.

Then Birx and Fauci, and the King himself, told us there was no reason to accept those numbers if we DO STUFF. They rolled out 100,000 to 240,000 then, which is when T shifted from "one guy from China" and "disappear" to those numbers. That was with the actions suggested, which are largely (but not uniformly) being followed.

Today we're at 40K. That would track pretty favorably in that range announced at the WH podium. Hopefully the final will be much closer to the lower number.

So.....of the options presented, I'd probably have to go with "what".

 

yeah, I got a message a post I replied to was deleted...without additional explanation...was my reply the problem? I couldn't remember the post or my reply.

 

The reality hasn't been symmetric, the decline after the peak drags out a lot longer. Italy hit their peak in deaths (919) on March 27th. Today, 21 days later, they only had 575 deaths. It took them 7 days to get from a similar level as they are at now to their peak. Steep curve on the way up, not so steep on the way down.

Italy Coronavirus: 172,434 Cases and 22,745 Deaths - Worldometer

Our peak may have been three days ago (2,618), but today was only down about 80 deaths from that peak. So even if three days ago was our peak, if we follow true to form, we are at about 3/5's of that in three weeks time, 1600 deaths per day-ish. The IHME model has us getting down to 1600 by the 25th. Maybe our drop off will be steeper, but flipping through the other countries I don't see anyone with a bell curve. Not sure why IHME would choose that model if no one fits it.

 

If you verbatim quote Trump then you have a 50% chance of getting your post deleted. Too Hot is held to 10x the standard that Trump is.

 

Not sure what the science is, but way more people per 100,000 die in NY then anywhere else.:
Death Rate: Death rates from COVID-19 U.S. by state 2020 | Statista

 

That's because way more people in NY have gotten it than in any other state (due in part to the density). Amongst confirmed cases, is the death rate higher in NY than elsewhere? That's what he was asking about.

 

That is what we should be referring to as mortality rate, which I have failed to do as well.
NY State has a 2.2 mortality rate.
NY City has a 5.3 mortality rate.

----------------------Cases Deaths Mortality
New York----------- 61,897---1,378------(2.2)
New York City-------41,771---4,111---- -(5.3)
Geographic Differences in COVID-19 Cases, Deaths, and Incidence ...

 

A former Republican governor calling out Trump on his irresponsible tweets and language. She may not get a Christmas card this year.

 

deep state rino sleeper cell style

 

I will take this under advisement...I do respect the 'Office'...while fearing for the many potential lives lost if we fail to deliver on all prescribed mitigation essential to a safe re-opening.
EDIT: and thanks for the heads up.

 

And that was only up through April 7th. As of today, the state of New York has 233,951 cases and 17,131 deaths, a mortality rate of 5.6%.

And New York City has 122,148 cases with 7,890 confirmed deaths, a mortality rate of 6.5%. They also have another 4,309 probable deaths, adding those in would give them a mortality rate of 10%.

 

I don't know the science. But it seems mortality and death rates both are higher in close quarters.

 

and certainly not a ventilator...

 

Maybe in close quarters you get exposed to a lot more viruses from multiple people?

 

That's my thinking. But it is certainly impacted by population density.

 

The concept is viral load.

 

tell us how you really feel.guess you did not get tillys post about language use, go back and scroll the last 2 pages to see about adhering to rules.

 

That post totally went over your head

 

how did the vile phrase whoremongering pussygrabber go over my head?use that language out in public?

 

the language was so filthy I had to respond 3 times.