Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Insert "Shocked" face here:
Wuhan officials have revised the city's coronavirus death toll up by 50% - CNN

 

I thought we were talking about the US. There has not been a day with 4000 deaths. @gator_lawyer quoted a tweet that said "US deaths"

 

I too was shocked that they only revised by 50%

 

Did you not read the article you linked? If you had, you would have known (but not admitted?) the headline was grossly inaccurate. Of course I’m basing my assertion that you would have gained that knowledge by guessing/hoping you know the difference between extending a contract to buy goods and actually paying for the goods delivered and accepted under a contract.

 

With regard to you question as to why, I think you need to ask the career civil servants who sourced and negotiated the transaction for which they subsequently sought approval of the purchase order/contract issued. That’s assuming you are really, sincerely interested in knowing, which I suspect you are not

 

I wonder if any of these claims of COVID-18 related consumer fraud are, themselves, fraudulent?

Americans have lost $13.4 million to fraud linked to Covid-19

 

Kelly Anne? That you?

 

Your days are off. NY added a bunch of deaths on the 14th dating a 4 week period. We have not had a 4000 day. Not even close

This site is pretty much the standard everyone uses. Scroll down to daily deaths and you will see the anomaly of the additional deaths added from earlier in the month and nothing more than the lower 2k's elsewhere:
.United States Coronavirus: 681,078 Cases and 35,371 Deaths - Worldometer

Also your link seems to be reporting 1 day behind.

 

The one thing that has become abundantly clear during all this is an awful lot of Americans have absolutely no idea what socialism actually is. I see people constantly griping about "socialism" over shutting down the beaches.

 

Socialism = anything perceived as anti Trump

 

Ignorance is rampant. In the public eye anything that they don't like is socialism lol.

 

I hope I'm wrong and the number of the deaths is much lower than that. And I 'except' science when it is both good and bad news.

But in this case, I am looking at the numbers and the current projections don't make sense to me. We are already at 35000 deaths and averaging around 2000 deaths per day. Even if that drops to 1000 deaths per day through May, we are looking at around 80k deaths by the end of May. Then if there is a further drop in the average to about 500 per day for the remainder of the year, that would put us at around 180,000 for the year.

Perhaps 500 deaths per day through the rest of the year is too high, but that represents a 75% drop from current levels. And as social distancing measures are inevitably relaxed, that number does not seem unrealistic to me. Like I said, I hope I am wrong.

 

I read the entire article and my question to you is, how is a bankrupt company with no employees going to fulfill that contract?

 

Probably better to ask Jared Kushner

 

Ok, let me pause you right there. Under 1%? What legitimate medical expert is claiming this with a straight face? Are they using common core math or something? We have, as of right now on worldometer, 35k deaths with 685k confirmed cases. That's a death rate of 5% of confirmed cases. And death is not immediate. It usually takes a good week, sometimes more, for someone to die of COVID-19. If I compare 35k deaths to the confirmed case count from one week ago (roughly 500k), the observed death rate is more like 7%. That's a far cry from being under 1%.

To somehow extrapolate this to a death rate under 1%, there have to be some serious mental gymnastics going on. You'd need to have more than 3.5 million infected to have a death rate under 1%. That's just the math. Has any real medical expert suggested the virus is this widespread? Even the most generous studies I've heard of suggest that 25% and maybe as many as 50% of infections can be asymptomatic. Do we really believe the testing gaps are so wide that 80%+ of COVID infections are being missed? Because that's what it would take to be at 1% right now. 1% just screams of misinformation right now.

On a MUCH happier note, the fact that we've only increased from 502k to 685k cases in the last week is a huge win. In March, US cases were doubling every 3-4 days.

 

Current forecast is 1,000 May 1st, 500 May 17th and 100 June 1st.

Let’s hope it’s accurate.

 

Answered at 7106.

Why do you think the headline posted was a factual misrepresentation? And do you it was intentionally subjective or just due to the writer’s or publisher’s ignorance?

 

I don't see how those numbers could be correct. I hope they are. But 100 per day just seems way way low to me. Florida alone is averaging around 40 deaths per day, and Florida has not spiked at all.

The only way I could see that number being correct is if there are a huge number of unknown asymptomatic cases out there and we are approaching herd immunity. I don't think that's the case, but it would be nice if it were.