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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. SCGator52

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    If given that task I’m sure Texas could muster up a plan to deal with its border. I’m not saying all Democrats would be bad but there are so many idiot open border, protect illegals, pay for their needs and give them voting rights Democrats that it worries me. Let’s take care of our own before taking on the worlds problems. You can’t deny there aren’t those among the group and seem to be getting larger and larger as time passes.

    Living in San Antonio and being down near the border has made me realize the problem is there and it needs to be slowed down. The other issue is the huge flow of drugs that needs to addressed if we ever want to stop the endless cycle of deaths and crime associated with it. I’m all for people immigrating here but it should be done the correct way.
     
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  2. gator_lawyer

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    It couldn't. It doesn't have the resources. It's hard enough for the federal government to do it. As for the "open borders" Democrats, they're a small minority of the party. The vast, vast majority of Americans agree that we need to enforce our border. Where we (Republicans and Democrats) disagree is how to fix our broken immigration system moving forward and what to do with the people who are already here.

    The best way to stop the flow of drugs is to reconsider our drug policy imo. And I'm all for requiring people to do it the "correct way" once we have a functioning system. As the system stands now, we desperately need the illegal immigrant labor, but we also lack a mechanism for the labor we need to enter the country the "correct way." It creates a perverse system that incentivizes them to cross illegally and then relegates them to an under-underclass of society of sorts.
     
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  3. intimigator1

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    And folks...that is why if you work in Florida that there are only 2 reasons you can dispute being terminated, race discrimination and sex harassment, and why 275.00 is all your worth because Republicans think the unemployed are just lazy.
    Leaving anything in Desantis (what is he doing playing governor), being in charge isnt high on my autonomy list.
     
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  4. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

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    Here is the updated info sheet for today. Wyoming still with 0 deaths.

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  5. philnotfil

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    I was really impressed by this press conference. It sounded like we had a great plan worked out and were ready to hit the ground running. It was more of his aspirational self-delusion again. He is the master of over-promise and under-deliver.



    "We've been working very hard on this. We've made tremendous progress," Trump said. "When you compare what we've done to other areas of the world, it's pretty incredible."

    But few of those promises have come to pass.

    NPR's Investigations Team dug into each of the claims made from the podium that day. And rather than a sweeping national campaign of screening, drive-through sample collection and lab testing, it found a smattering of small pilot projects and aborted efforts.

    In some cases, no action was taken at all.
     
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  6. duchen

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    Trump’s statements at those pressers include multiple lies. People need to look hard at leadership that would give them bad information I’m a pandemic
     
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  7. swampbabe

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    Hard to admit you’ve been conned, takes self reflection.
     
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  8. GatorGuyDallas

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    Ramping up testing to 750,000 to 3.8 million per week is going to be a massive federally driven undertaking.

    That range is in a Forbes article I read on Saturday. So far, like your quoted article points out, we are all talk and little action. The talk has actually turned to pushing responsibility for testing to the states.

    Everyone wants to get people back to work as soon as possible. That is going to be driven to a huge degree by our ability to test, trace and quarantine. Hence that range in the Forbes article.

    Outbreak to date we have tested less than the high side of that one week range.

    Local authorities can execute a national testing plan, but only the federal government can get that volume of tests produced and distributed.

    Until there is real talk about how many tests are needed to go back to work, and when that amount of testing can be brought on line - we are just whistling past the graveyard.
     
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  9. G8trGr8t

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    What was the unemployment benefit in Mali? You do realize that rate and policy was set long before DeSantis don't you
     
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  10. exiledgator

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    "Informative"

    You worked on an Alaskan fishing boat? Badass.
     
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  11. philnotfil

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    The Ditherer-in-Chief - The Bulwark

     
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  12. vaxcardinal

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    so she can keep an eye on Russia
     
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  13. OklahomaGator

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    Is she going to drop in on Sara Palin?
     
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  14. channingcrowderhungry

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    Awesome. It needs to be everyone's bucket list because the beauty is unmatched
     
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  15. channingcrowderhungry

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    I had a summer at UF that I didnt want to take classes and didnt want to go home. So yeah, I booked it up there for a salmon season. Hardest work I'll ever do and for the shittiest pay. It was flat rate and I did the math and it came out to something like $4.25 and hour. Lol. But I was in it for the adventure.
     
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  16. GCNumber7

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    Hispanic immigrants in Europe tend to land in Spain and Italy. Easier for them due to the language.
     
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  17. GatorGuyDallas

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    The actual quote from the Charles Gibson interview. It’s only marginally better than SNL’s “I can see Russia from my house”. That was the night I flipped from voting for McCain.

    “They’re our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska”
     
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  18. SCGator52

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    That small majority is getting really vocal and growing these days. How many of this years prez candidates were for open borders? If given the task I Texas could do ok at controlling its borders. Don’t give Texans the opportunity to remind the world they were their own country or let them show you they are better. Seriously Texans are different than any other breed!!

    As for needing that illegal workforce I agree with you. The latest generations of Americans (not all but a lot) aren’t going to do the manual labor these days. That work is beneath them and they are too spoiled. It is a problem we have created just like the drug problem. If we eliminate the demand the supply will take care of itself.

    I don’t disagree with everything you are saying but I like the idea of states handling themselves with assistance from the federal govt.
     
  19. gator_lawyer

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    Too many of them said it just to score points. Ultimately, many walked it back, and Biden, the person who won, was not in favor of it at any point. As for Texas, I'm being realistic. Where is the state going to get the money to fund it's own border patrol, border security infrastructure, and immigration system? Are they going to raise taxes? I highly doubt it. ;)
     
  20. NavyGator93

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    It is like we purposely selected the most ignorant person for the role of POTUS:
    Trump claims he, not governors, has authority on opening state economies

    “For the purpose of creating conflict and confusion, some in the Fake News Media are saying that it is the Governors decision to open up the states, not that of the President of the United States & the Federal Government. Let it be fully understood that this is incorrect,” Trump tweeted Monday morning.
     
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