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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duchen

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    Tonight's buck passing tweet. He has turned the burden of an international pandemic into a state and local issue. A failed "leader" blows it, and then passes the blame to others.


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    Governors, get your states testing programs & apparatus perfected. Be ready, big things are happening. No excuses! The Federal Government is there to help. We are testing more than any country in the World. Also, gear up with Face Masks!
    5:43 PM · Apr 12, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
     
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  2. oragator1

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    AB5C1C04-660C-4137-B007-6CC79FD3699A.jpeg Hike today had me thinking about runners...was really crowded and clear that 6 feet wasn’t enough. Most people kept distances, but not quite 6 feet in some cases, and the runners clearly were needing even more.
    But the Potomac seems to have somehow survived the virus so far. Main channel is obscured by the islands, but leaves are starting to bloom, everything is green. Nice reaffirming kind of day.
     
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  3. mutz87

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    He creates his own reality. It is one of his most dangerous and contemptible traits. Worse yet, people believe him. They cheer it on.
     
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  4. philnotfil

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    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/haiti/article241922071.html

     
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  5. G8trGr8t

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  6. mutz87

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    New Covid-19 cases graphed by week. Def a logarithmic curve. Hope it will continue.

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  7. G8trGr8t

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    Alaska salmon season is coming up. Usually involves massive influx of people to staff the fish processing facilities and help staff the boats. First run is Copper River salmon where thousands of people flock to a little town of 2k people called Cordova. One small hospital, no ICU beds. State and City are struggling figuring out what to do. Mayor and tribal chief in Bristol Bay requesting that the fishery be shut down. Fish processing centers are usually staffed by Russian and other eastern European workers. In addition to commercial harvesting, Alaskan residents with subsistence permits also gather in large numbers at different places to dip net salmon to feed their family, and often their dog teams, with the catches.

    Cordova faces big decisions over how to run its famous early-season salmon fishery during a pandemic

    Thousands of fishermen and processing and support workers are expected to enter Cordova, a community with about 2,500 year-round residents and a hospital without any ICU beds. Some residents have called on officials to restrict travel into town, seeing it as the best way to keep the new coronavirus from spreading.

    In Cordova, more than 400 people have signed a petition calling on the mayor, Clay Koplin, to restrict all travel into the town except for medical personnel, law enforcement, child protective services and cargo. A website, Keep Cordova Safe, includes a growing vault of open letters by community members making the case for why Cordova should halt an influx of summer workers.

    Testimonials published on the site include one by a Cordova doctor who, in a March 30 letter, cautioned that opening the isolated community to thousands of outsiders would be dangerous. “I do not believe there is a way to safely triple the size of the population without significant morbidity and mortality to the people in Cordova from the COVID-19 virus,” wrote Hannah Sanders, a local physician.
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    Cordova is not alone in questioning the balance of travel for an industry that anchors the local economy with public health. In Bristol Bay, home of the biggest salmon fishery in the state, Dillingham’s mayor and tribal chief have asked the governor to consider canceling the $300 million commercial fishing season this year. A coalition of processors has offered a plan to institute strict controls on their seasonal workers to limit spread of the virus.
     
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  8. AndyGator

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    Well, logarithmic up to 193,238. Looks like it is going to be more of a gamma distribution to me.
     
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  9. duchen

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  10. buckeyegator

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    again today the lowest figures since last sunday, now I really believe I am right that worldometer uses yesterdays statistics for today, Cuomo said today758 died in ny yesterday,same as reported today, not likely to have 2 straight identical days, but as long as they use the same 8pm to 8pm time frame every day, its ok.concerned about the low wseekend numbers either way, why are cases down, you would think testing, given the gravity of the matter, would go on 7 days a week.
     
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  11. SCGator52

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    Umm governors should be handling their states. That is exactly their job to do and exactly what they were elected to do. I’m surprised you didn’t delete the sentence “ the federal government is there to help” in order to bash just a little more. I swear some of you people thrive on complaining about everything Trump says or does. I don’t agree with everything he says or does but there is a point where you just have to stop. There’s a reason we have local, state and federal govts.
     
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  12. philnotfil

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    Updated with data for the 12th. Covid19 overtook Accidents yesterday for 3rd place. If we have truly flattened the curve, covid19 won't catch heart disease or cancer. We only had five days where more people died from covid19 than the daily average for heart disease (1774) or cancer (1641). If today's increase (1564) is our new normal for the next few weeks, that would be great.

    Covid vs. US Top 15 Causes of Death
     
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  13. channingcrowderhungry

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    Another shit situation all around. I worked in Alaska for a summer on a salmon boat. Those guys make their entire years wages in 3 months. If that doesn't happen I have no idea what some families will do.
     
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  14. duchen

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    This is an international pandemic. This isn’t a state and local problem. The failure was at the national level and a long time ago. Poor information. Social distancing too late. No ramping up of PPE, equipment, etc. Bad information about when to shelter in place. And the failure continues.
     
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  15. philnotfil

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    An interesting look at how social distancing interacted with the economy during the 1918 pandemic.

    Cities with strong social distancing see stronger economic recoveries | MIT Sloan

     
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  16. channingcrowderhungry

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    @duchen what was there to disagree with in this post? Just curious
     
  17. duchen

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    Fat finger syndrome. Fixed
     
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  18. channingcrowderhungry

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    Lol. Normally it doesn't bother me, but I was like "damn that was a really benign post to get the bacon on"
     
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  19. G8trGr8t

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    Reasonable compromise seems to be to let the locals get and process what they can. Keeps locals employed if they are willing to do the jobs and helps to suppress supply to market so prices don't totally crater. Not sure how to address the subsistence fisheries large gatherings.

    And it isn't limited to fisheries that cash in on those premium 3 months. The whole tourism trade up there is during that same 3 month period.
     
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  20. channingcrowderhungry

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    Realistically it's no different than trying to keep any other business open right now. The local fishing guides, and plenty of other bizs, who rely on the tourists are screwed. But the essential businesses just have to keep on keepin on .
     
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