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Coronavirus - International stories and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Jan 20, 2020.

  1. gaterzfan

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    Any thoughts on the theory spreading around the web which claims the generally excepted treatment for CV 19 may be wrong? In general layman’s terms it says that CV 19 does not cause pneumonia or ARDS. Asserts the virus causes prolonged in progress of hypoxia. Further it asserts that high pressure intubation from ventilators can cause more damage Then would otherwise be experienced and treatment without ventilators.
     
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    I wish they would tell us how many normally die in French nursing homes every month, and how many died from covid and non covid causes recently.

    Those numbers would be interesting to me.
     
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    If it doesn't cause pneumonia then why in the world would x-rays show it? Not questioning you just the source. Also how did they get this info? I highly doubt so many doctors across the entire planet are completely wrong.
     
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  4. pkaib01

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    Interesting. Can you provide a source?

    Read a study this morning on sources of covid-19 misinformation on the web and my interest is piqued.

    edit: The COVID-19 ‘infodemic’: what does the… | Oxford Martin School
     
  5. gaterzfan

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    I don't know but here's what one physician says. Perhaps there I'd pneunomis and hypoxia, if possible?

    Do COVID-19 Vent Protocols Need a Second Look?
     
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  7. pkaib01

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    Fascinating. The STAT article makes a good case that nuance exists in treating covid-19 patients with low o2 levels. Some patients have characteristics akin to altitude sickness vs traditional acute respiratory distress.

    This sort of critical thinking is necessary by the medical community, even if it turns out to be disproven.

    This is a must read.
     
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  8. OklahomaGator

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    Boris Johnson is out of ICU, that is a good sign.
     
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  9. vaxcardinal

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  10. chemgator

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    More evidence that salt is bad for you . . .

    Pass the salt: The minute details that helped Germany build virus defenses

    Not surprising that a salt shaker could transfer the virus. Surprising that Germany went to the trouble of tracking down how the transmission occurred. Presumably, they removed all the salt shakers and put in extra pepper shakers to prevent this incident from repeating.
     
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  12. ThePlayer

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    Great to hear.
    One of my favorite leaders.
    Beside these guys of course:

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  13. spike718

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    some info from today on the virus from Switzerland:



    The coronavirus has touched lives in every Swiss canton. From age to gender, here's what we know about the victims.


    As at Thursday, April 9th, more than 24,000 people have been confirmed as contracting the coronavirus, with every one of Switzerland’s 26 cantons recording confirmed cases.

    There have been 948 confirmed deaths, according to reports from the cantons - while 9900 people have been confirmed to have recovered from the virus.

    What should I do if I have coronavirus symptoms in Switzerland?

    Who has the virus hit hardest?

    The coronavirus poses a higher risk to certain sections of the population. All over the world, men have been at a higher risk, a statistic which is also seen in Switzerland.

    In Switzerland, 61 percent of those hospitalised are men - while 62 percent of those who have died in Switzerland are also men.

    People considered to be at a greater risk of complications from the virus are people over 65 years of age, people with high blood pressure, cardiovascular diseases, diabetes, chronic respiratory diseases, diseases and therapies that weaken the immune system and cancer.

    This is reflected in the victim data. Note that this is correct as at Thursday, April 9th and may change as more people contract the virus.

    The median age of those who have passed away from the virus in Switzerland is 83 years. Of those who have died from the virus, 98 percent were suffering from one or more pre-existing conditions.

    According to data from the Swiss Federal Office of Public Health, the most common condition suffered by the deceased is high blood pressure, which affected 64 percent of the deceased.

    Just over one half - 56 percent - suffered from cardiovascular diseases, while 28 percent suffered from diabetes.

    Who has died from the virus in Switzerland?

    The true dangers of the coronavirus can be seen by looking at mortality rates in Switzerland.

    Nobody under the age of 30 has died from the virus, while four people in their 30s have passed away - a mortality rate of 0.13 percent.

    Only one person in their 40s in Switzerland has passed away from the virus - giving rise to a mortality rate of 0.03 percent.

    While people in their 50s are the heaviest affected in terms of infections, there has been a relatively low death rate - with only 17 people in this age bracket dying due to the virus, or a mortality rate of 0.34 percent.

    The death rates jump up for people in their 60s, with 61 people passing away (mortality rate of 2 percent), while 172 people in their 70s have died from coronavirus (mortality rate of 7.22 percent).

    Swiss residents above 80 have been the heaviest hit however, with 500 people 80 or older passing away. This means that in Switzerland people over the age of 80
     
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  14. G8trGr8t

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    seems to indicate that covid is ramping up in Russia

    China Closes Russia Border, Puts New City Into Wuhan-Style Lockdown

    Chinese authorities closed its land border with Russia and placed Suifenhe, a city in the northernmost Heilongjiang province, into lockdown on Wednesday after the Asian country experienced a surge of imported coronavirus cases.
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    Under the lockdown, each family can nominate one member to venture outside their home for essential supplies every three days, according to the local epidemic control department. Mask and temperature checks will be conducted by officials, as well as resident permit and health checks. These measures are similar to those imposed on Wuhan's residents at the height of the outbreak in China. All hotels have also been closed and entry into the region has been limited to only residents until June 1.
     
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  15. philnotfil

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    I don't know why we still aren't doing temperature checks at entrances to public buildings.
     
  16. 96Gatorcise

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    South Korea reports recovered coronavirus patients testing positive again

    Jeong Eun-kyeong, director of the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC), told a briefing that the virus may have been “reactivated” rather than the patients being re-infected.

    South Korean health officials said it remains unclear what is behind the trend, with epidemiological investigations still under way.

    The prospect of people being re-infected with the virus is of international concern, as many countries are hoping that infected populations will develop sufficient immunity to prevent a resurgence of the pandemic.
     
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  17. chemgator

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    Denmark is getting ready to ease restrictions. Schools are scheduled to reopen next week.

    Denmark rushed to lock down before almost every other country. Now its response is so far ahead that it's starting to remove restrictions.

    Denmark wasn't the strictest European nation for restrictions, but probably had the most compliance from their general population, according to the article.

    A 1-day or 2-day dropoff does not seem like enough to justify reopening the country for business (and school). And hundreds of new cases a day is still significant, considering how contagious this virus is. It could easily balloon back up to thousands of cases a day. You can't expect children to faithfully follow hygiene and social distancing requirements.
     
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  18. 96Gatorcise

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    A good test case for the rest of the world. If they do well, then they are the model to follow. If they have a 2nd wave, then a longer time line is needed.
     
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  19. chemgator

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    Well, Brazil has managed to get a boy from the remotest tribe in the Amazon infected with coronavirus. The village elder was quoted as saying: "Next you'll be telling me Michael Jackson is dead."

    The culprit is apparently miners who weren't supposed to be in that area.

    A boy from a remote Amazonian tribe has died, raising concerns about Covid-19's impact on indigenous people - CNN

     
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