Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Thats what I have been saying for 3.5 years!

 

Sick is more like it.

 

No ripping my friend. We are on the same page about relevence. It will change as we know, but it can be helpful in the meantime to look for the curve that we all hope is coming soon.

There. You happy?!

 

He is asking that people voting on 2 trillion dollars being added to the debt stand up and have their vote actually counted.
House members should have been in Washington for this anyway. If regular workers have to go to work every day, Congress needs to suck it up and do the work the people need, and do it the right way.

So I agree with Massie, even if he is grandstanding.

 

Problem is many Americans CAN'T go to work, and congress has been asked to stay away as well.
I generally agree with what you are saying, but not right now. America wants this. Both sides of America. They work for us.

Hold your nose and put away the formalities long enough to do what WE want THEM to do.

 

Massie is also barking(rightly) about money in the bill that has nothing to do with the virus.

Money for the endowment for the arts. WHY?

 

Putting a bunch of elderly people in the same room while we're fighting this pandemic isn't my idea of setting a good example.

Because like the rest of the economy, the arts are being hurt by this virus too.

 

I actually think money for the arts during crisis is a positive thing. Might not need to be in there, but I don't have a problem that it is.

 

Because too many people have their infected fingers in the pie.
They better donate every nickel to a hospital 30 seconds after they get it.

 

I don't have an issue with those allotments. During economic downturns, cultural institutions are some of the hardest hit and have the longest turnaround times.

 

Because the arts employs people. Artists and people who support artists (crew, PR, venues, employees of venues). And audiences don’t buy tickets and show up when they could die by watching.

 

then be innovative about it. Either have them come in to vote 25 at a time to keep social distancing, or come up with a way to vote remotely. For heaven’s sake, companies around the world are finding ways to operate in this environment without resorting to things like not actually voting on 2 trillion being added to the debt.

 

Stop with your logical arguments. Screw the arts !!!!!!!


runs and hides.......( for a min or 2) actually need to walk the dogs.

 

The House has “remote voting,” unlike the Senate. Votes can be from Rayburn (Senators must vote on the floor only). They can’t remote vote from their districts presently. Putting their and their staff’s lives at risk by making them return to DC to make that point probably isn’t the best time to do it.

 

there are a thousand options that would set a good example - have a 435 person (plus the vote counter) video conference. The government can certainly pull that off. Save the video call so anyone who wants to can watch it.
It’s 2 trillion dollars, that’s over 6k per person in this country...and you are talking about having a voice vote with less than half the people there. That’s just not right, even if we think it will pass.

in the end they did it by voice vote, so if five years from now it turns out it was wholly wrong and a disaster, we now have no idea who actually would have voted yes or no when their vote was counted.

Shouldn’t be how the government is run, crisis or not.

 

"Why you bringing up my old tweets?"

 

They have a way to vote remotely.

 

If that tweet exposes "serious mental deficiencies", then we might want to take down Twitter since most of the shit I've seen in the past 7 years makes Trump's tweets look like Mensa. Trump is trying to avoid the Greatest Depression and balancing how best to save lives. How do you do it? Go ahead and call a national shelter-in-place for the next 3 to 6 months? Unless you have a way to keep businesses alive after we open back up, stick a fork in the US, we are officially dead. I think this is what people are forgetting here. Denmark just hit the pause button but they are paying their people 90% of their wages and providing money to employers so the people have jobs to come back to. For a nation of 5.6 million people, they are spending $2.5T. The equivalent to what they did if we did the same for our country would equate to a price tag of $147T.

Oh I forgot to add......that $2.5T is through the end of June.

 

Talking about missing the point of the illustration.

You, like fever, seem to be incapable of understanding that a prophylactic measure will by it’s very nature reduce cases of the virus and its effects. That doesn’t mean the predictions without taking such measures are wrong (or right for that matter). However, arguing against the measures by comparing apples and oranges is obviously incorrect methodology.

 

Deaths in Louisiana doubled today from 18 to 36. If that rate followed around the country we would be looking at around 2k deaths a day. So they are very much in the thick of it right now.