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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. GatorNorth

    GatorNorth Premium Member Premium Member

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    I still can't figure out how we know 60 million people had H1N1 when not nearly that many were tested.

    Guess the CDC extrapolated those numbers by doing research after the fact.

    So I expect sometime in 2022/2023 after all of this settles out the CDC will issue a similar post mortem on covid-19 and tell us something like xxx millions of people were infected in the US.

    That's why you wait until the game is over instead of proclaiming a leftist, globalist, collusion hoax in the bottom of the first inning.
     
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  2. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    You realize that a dead cat bounce is when it bounces from a declining rate, right? Because this country has never had a declining rate of infections for any length of time. In fact, it has been increasing at an exponential rate. In Louisiana, certainly not in the NE, we are now at almost 1,400 cases and are increasing several hundred a day. And that is with still some shortages in tests (although lss severe than in other locations).
     
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  3. Gatorhall

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    If he wasn’t giving daily updates you and others would be bitching and moaning “Where the hell is the President?”. You will never be pleased no matter what the man does but you are not alone.
     
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  4. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

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    Nah. I'd be quite happy if Trump let people like Dr. Fauci keep us updated. The less of him I see, the happier I am.
     
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  5. GatorNorth

    GatorNorth Premium Member Premium Member

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    I saw this graph earlier, we now have just about the steepest "curve" (which is now about a 70 degree angle and hardly a curve) on the graph. Steeper than Italy. Much steeper than China. Spain's looks close.

    But hey, "let's fill up those churches on Easter Sunday" said the reality show host, evangelical panderer who impersonates a president. .
     
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  6. gator_lawyer

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    They reached a point where they stopped testing and were estimating the number of cases. I don't remember why.
     
  7. GatorNorth

    GatorNorth Premium Member Premium Member

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    That's my point. And we all accept that as fact. Same thing's gonna happen here. But half the country won't accept the estimate for covid-19 like they do the other in order to make an invalid H1N1 comparison.

    Situational science at work.
     
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  8. GatorNorth

    GatorNorth Premium Member Premium Member

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    OMG you're right.

    Time to go watch Man in the High Castle-season 2 for some laughs..........
     
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  9. gatordavisl

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    Of course it is not a meaningless statistic. It simply needs to be taken in perspective. It accounts for a limited amount of variables and will naturally be much higher than case fatality rate or mortality rate.
     
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  10. duchen

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    China cannot be lowballing deaths if this is a minor cold that isn't killing that many people.

    You might try being consistent in your posting.
     
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  11. gator_fever

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    You actually want me to comb through this thread for all the outlandish claims once this tops in a few days?

    If you own it I respect that. I was convinced the Reps could hold the House and I owned up to that when ripped and learned a lesson not to ignore past history
     
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  14. GatorNorth

    GatorNorth Premium Member Premium Member

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    No, my post was rhetorical to make a point.
     
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  15. duchen

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    The testing is not going to identify antibodies. it will identify live virus. Blood tests are needed to identify anti-bodies.

    Doctors?
     
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  16. BLING

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    Good point. I was wondering about whether the tests could identify who HAD the virus, but as I've heard them described as a "nasal swab" that would probably be useless for that purpose. Need to see the antibodies in the blood.

    I haven't even seen anything definitive that you cannot be re-infected. Hopefully that's not the case here with the lung infection, haven't seen anything definitive one way or the other. I've seen some doctors suggest you get antibodies but those only last for a few months or maybe up to a year. But my take was they were pretty much still guessing at this stage, nothing definitive.
     
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    If there are that many of them, it should be easy to find one.
     
  18. OklahomaGator

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    I believe it was the female doctor Burke??? that said they were developing that right now as well, simple pinprick on the finger, not the full blown blood sample.
     
  19. duchen

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    We should be doing antibody testing on anyone who has had a fever for the last 3 months. Would help to get a handle on the onset and spread.

    Even to test everyone.
     
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  20. gator_fever

    gator_fever GC Legend

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    When this is dropping in just a few days I could make a thread almost half the size of this huge one there are so many.
     
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