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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. docspor

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    word in colo is the peak is expected in July
     
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  2. gator_fever

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    No its not with the privates etc. there are a ton but nice try - probably why NYC is doing this for media BS after testing everybody and their brother with a sniffle that asked for a test from their doctor the last few days - one state almost as much testing as the rest of the country probably those days. They know they cant stop this fraud doomsaying from being seen even by the blind right now within about a week.
     
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  3. HallGator

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    I'm wondering if maybe the reason they are not putting the number that are hospitalized in those states is due to inadequate sources rather than intentional omission.
     
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  4. tilly

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    I mean I said the all of the states weren't posting hospital data, but there is a lot of other valuable data on that site.
    If you only want perfect info posted then you need to check back in 3 months when we have a better grasp. Fluid conversations will have inaccurate data, but that is still a lot of great info on that site.
     
  5. G8trGr8t

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    Really wondering why the mods allow him to continue to post. It seems that even Facebook would ban someone who so continually spread misinformation
     
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  6. gator_lawyer

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    One of his claims to fame appears to be representing Alex Jones. No reason to give that dildo the time of day.
     
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  7. gator_lawyer

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    I can understand them allowing it. He's not breaking any rules. It just falls to us to debunk the myths he posts.
     
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  8. mutz87

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    Nearly every post is laden with conspiracy. So now NY officials are doing something to coverup their doomsaying.
    No evidence, no anything. It's bat s*** crazy.
     
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  9. gator_fever

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    Nope they are creating a new storyline before they start pushing on a string with their test every mild case strategy previously used which is fed to the public by the media as we are all going to die if Trump doesn't get another 150,000 ventilators out to hospitals etc. that have more available than what the entire inpatient count will end up being.
     
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  10. gator_lawyer

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    We shouldn't just be testing mild cases. We should be testing people who have no symptoms. You contain this virus in part by stopping asymptomatic people from spreading it. And they're gearing up to manufacture a bunch of ventilators so that we're not forced to do what Italy did in a few weeks (choosing who lives and who dies because we can't treat everybody).
     
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  11. cluckugator

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    Your thoughts on the hospital source you linked. I'd bet you a $1 2,000 people are hospitalized in CA alone with it.

    Your source says zero. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good is not a valid comeback here.

    Just a crappy link. Happens to the best of us. Said I would agree to disagree, but if you want we can discuss further why I would like it removed form a site that I love, have been a paying customer since I was a student and represents my University.
     
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  12. mutz87

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    I don't have the energy or patience to debate yet another conspiracy with you.
     
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  13. mutz87

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    Folks, have some hesitancy in any of these data. They are being compiled from numerous different sources and often as it is with hospitals, they might not be reporting all the hospitalizations for various reasons--they might not know whether it's covid-19 or something else. This is so fast moving that even the positive tests and deaths are lagging behind and liable to change in either direction as numbers get adjusted at their sources.

    Edit: By "these data" I mean every one of the tracking sites.
     
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  14. tilly

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    So any link that lacks perfect data should be removed? Even in a fluid situation. C'mon man, we can't do that. This situation changes by the minute.
    Appreciate your POV. I really do, but we cant expect flawless data right now.
     
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  15. PITBOSS

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    What ARE you talking about?!??!
     
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  16. mdgator05

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    I appreciate the data mostly because it shows the limitations of some of the claims made by others on here about limited hospitalization. It showed how they were coming up with that narrative: by ignoring 3 of the largest outbreaks and at least 2 of the other largest states in the country, as they don't report hospitalization. I agree to posting as much data as possible, we just need to be careful with how it is framed. Specifically, in this case, the notion of limited hospitalization appears to be false and rather is just an artifact of data limitation.
     
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  17. gator_lawyer

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    Tilly, I don't think there's anything wrong with taking note of the data, but you and I both know that data only shows CONFIRMED positive tests. Basically, due to our severe testing shortages, it doesn't mean anything.
     
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  18. cluckugator

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    No not at all. Re-read my post. Perfect should never be the enemy of the good. That link wasn't close to good. I'd love a link with 3,000 hospitalized patients in CA if it were 2,000 or 4,000. Trying to educate myself.

    That link just had crappy info. Wish it was correct, know you aren't posting conspiracies, but it gets an F- for accuracy.
     
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  19. 96Gatorcise

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    We just need to flood everyone of his posts with a dislike rating. Its the only one that is a negative rep.
     
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  20. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Well of course we don't have data on untested cases. But we can start to extrapolate. Regardless, that is the only data we have at the moment and banning it from a message board for discussion would be weird to me.