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Coronavirus - International stories and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Jan 20, 2020.

  1. ElimiGator

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    But still what? Reporting modeling results is stupid and irresponsible. Similar to the blood type story going around that type O is more immune that type A. Dumb. Sorry, don’t mean to dump on you.
     
  2. ElimiGator

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    And what do the Spaniards do? They were very late to the game!
     
  3. duchen

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    Maybe this explains why his father, Donald Trump, lied and said the disease would disappear.
     
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  4. g8rjd

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    After saying it was a hoax.
     
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  6. G8trGr8t

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    Younger Adults Comprise Big Portion of Coronavirus Hospitalizations in U.S.
    American adults of all ages — not just those in their 70s, 80s and 90s — are being seriously sickened by the coronavirus, according to a report on nearly 2,500 of the first recorded cases in the United States.

    The report, issued Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, found that — as in other countries — the oldest patients had the greatest likelihood of dying and of being hospitalized. But of the 508 patients known to have been hospitalized, 38 percent were notably younger — between 20 and 54. And nearly half of the 121 patients who were admitted to intensive care units were adults under 65, the C.D.C. reported.

    “I think everyone should be paying attention to this,” said Stephen S. Morse, a professor of epidemiology at Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health. “It’s not just going to be the elderly. There will be people age 20 and up. They do have to be careful, even if they think that they’re young and healthy.”

    In the C.D.C. report, 20 percent of the hospitalized patients and 12 percent of the intensive care patients were between the ages of 20 and 44, basically spanning the millennial generation.
     
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  7. G8trGr8t

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    'People Are Dying Left and Right.' Inside Iran's Struggle to Contain Its Coronavirus Outbreak

    But the defining images from Qom, the early epicenter of Iran’s viral outbreak, might turn out to be footage of body bags lined up at one of the city’s morgues, or doctors without personal protective equipment tending to the sick. In interviews with TIME, staff on the front lines of the hardest-hit nation in the Middle East painted a bleak picture of a healthcare system in the throes of a crisis that threatens to overwhelm its capacity. While experts point to critical errors in Iran’s early handling of the highly infectious virus, its experience now — in terms of the high impact on healthcare systems and frontline workers — is already finding echoes around the world.

    “My uncle, who is a doctor, called me in tears from his hospital saying that he can’t cope anymore,” a laboratory scientist working at one of five public hospitals in Qom, told TIME by phone on March 14. Protective gear was lacking during the first phase of the crisis, she said, “so much so that for the first week the doctors and nurses only used regular masks—no gloves, no gowns, nothing else.”

    As of March 17, Iran had recorded almost 1,000 deaths from COVID-19 (the disease caused by the new coronavirus). Already the highest toll outside of China and Italy, the World Health Organization (WHO) says the actual toll could be five times higher, due to testing being restricted to severe cases. Two days earlier, with deaths at 724, the country’s health ministry said that around 15% of those who died were under the age of 40—an unprecedented figure for a disease whose death rate for those under 50 appears to be well below 1%.

    The COVID-19 outbreak in Qom, Iran’s religious capital and home to the country’s top Shi’ite clerics and seminaries, has since metastasized to nearby cities such as Tehran, Isfahan, and Kashan. It has hit the upper ranks of government, infecting cabinet members, senior members of the military and clerical establishments, and two vice presidents. On March 16, Ayatollah Hashem Bathaie Golpayenagi, a member of the Assembly of Experts responsible for selecting Iran’s next Supreme Leader, became the latest senior figure to die.
     
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  9. gatorknights

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    We should have voted this guy in...

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    Because most of SK's infections were within one branch of a church which focuses primarily on recruiting students and the youth. This branch also held meetings in Wuhan, which is probably where they caught it. This church is based in Daegu which is now the epicenter of SK's outbreak.
     
  11. demosthenes

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    We have an office in Ulsan, SK which is about 70 miles from Daegu and has a direct train connection for less than ten dollars. South Korea has done an amazing job containing this and the outbreak hasn’t affected our office’s operations.
     
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  12. 96Gatorcise

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    This info started coming out yesterday, it should be a flashing red light!!! It should be reported on all the news channels to get the word. No one is immune. There is going to be a huge spike in cases and deaths. The young most likely are asymptomatic longer and and are sicker longer as their bodies fight. Taking up valuable bed space.
     
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  13. LouisvilleGator

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    Italy's death rate is alarmingly high. I understand they may have an older population. Also, new cases continue to explode in number despite all the restrictions there. Could is be they have a strand of this shit that is way worse than the original one that came out of Wuhan? Spain's cases continue to skyrocket as well. These countries are doing more than we are in terms of restrictions, etc, right?
     
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  15. demosthenes

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    The experts seem to think we’re simply trailing a few weeks behind them. If correct we’ll see a similar uptick in numbers.

    As for the mortality rate in Italy, I haven’t seen a definitive explanation other than their large elderly population. But that doesn’t explain the entire disparity in outcomes. My guess is that their overwhelmed healthcare system in triage is choosing not to treat a lot of elderly that are being saved by intervention in other countries. As other countries become overwhelmed we may see a similar high rate.

    I did read a while back that there were two strands of COVID-19. No idea on the lethality or where spread but a virologist said that typically as viruses mutate they become less deadly, not more. But there’s so much we don’t know right now.
     
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  17. LouisvilleGator

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    It is quite concerning that some countries who are implementing some pretty tough restrictions are seeing cases still skyrocket. South Korea has slowed the spread and they have a pretty low death rate. To me, it appears there is more going on there than simply quarantining and testing. It's hitting some places harder than others. I am not an expert on viruses. Perhaps this has always been the case.
     
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    This thing can take up to 14 days (and I've seen as high as 24 days) to incubate, and people spread it asymptomatically before they start showing any symptoms. So Italy was going about their business, by the time they acted it was too late.They only cracked down AFTER it had spread pretty widely and death started happening. Which is what some people fear has been going on here, we are just a couple of weeks behind them. Maybe we did it early enough that we are only half as bad, but seeing those scenes at airports and at the beaches I'm not hopeful that we aren't going to be just as bad.
     
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  19. 96Gatorcise

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    Watching patients die alone breaks doctors' hearts in provincial Italy hospital

    Doctor Romano Paolucci, who came out of retirement to help at a hospital in Italy’s coronavirus epicenter, says one of the hardest things for him is not so much seeing people die - he is used to that.

    It is seeing them die alone, without a loved one by their side, often having to say their final farewell over a scratchy cell phone line.

    Paolucci is one of 70 doctors working long and exhausting shifts at the small Oglio Po Hospital, which until only a month ago was a normal provincial institution treating everything from tonsils to tumors.

    Now, it has been totally converted to treat coronavirus as Cremona province became the fourth-worst impacted province in Italy.
     
  20. VAg8r1

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    Apparently you've been drinking this.
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