Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Keep in mind Italy is the 2nd oldest population. Germany is old too. I'd look at Japan and ask what they are doing because they have by far the oldest population of any country. Nearly a third of their population is 65+ yet they have low rates and social distancing in Tokyo is akin to enforcing a 6 ft parameter around 12 people in an elevator.

 

Absolutely worst case is 100% infected, and fatality rate like Italy's 8%, and we end up with 26 million Americans dead. Which would really suck, but America will still be 300 million people strong and we will go on.

But if we do the mitigation, we can save 25 million Americans. I think they are worth it.

 

The main challenge of this approach is that NPIs (and drugs, if available) need to be maintained – at least intermittently - for as long as the virus is circulating in the human population, or until a vaccine becomes available.

It doesn't say the world needs to shutdown completely for 18 months.

 

I read the article and on Page 7 is shows the graph of peak rates between April and July. That is the same numbers several others have stated like Johns Hopkins and the CDC.

 

The reason the death rate goes up as people get older is because there are more people in the older age groups who are already ill. Of course they should be taking the precautions! They're the ones who are dying! But why lock down everybody else and destroy the economy?

 

Because we don’t have adequate testing, courtesy of bad decisionmaking and 30% of young people (based on S Korea data) are carriers. I’ve posted the data on this. Basically, with this virus, young people are bringing it to old and respiratory distressed people who will overwhelm our health care system and die in the hospital halls. In Italy, the crematoriums can’t dispose of the bodies fast enough.

 

Oh man, you read it wrong:

There are 5 or 6 occurrences of '18' and all point to availability of vaccines. That's standard unfortunately. The bulk of that time are the testing periods. The 1st is the one they just started with a few dozen, the next will have a few score, then the final one in the thousands. Now, you could make a case that we all would volunteer for any of them but it'd be like winning the lottery. Usually, by the time a vaccine is available, the virus has already peaked. That happened in 2009 as well. What the vaccine is for is future outbreaks. Definitely will see this vaccine for all time after this as part of the seasonal rotation.

 

The Japanese are an inherently clean people. They wear a mask because they don't want others to get sick. It's their culture.

 

America's most costly war in terms of casualties....

 

The Navy is moving a hospital ship to NY

 

God Bless the US Navy. NYC is projected to have a terrible outbreak.

 

Thanks - helpful. I have to imagine that with the concentration of resources we will have an effective vaccine before 18 months. My understanding is that we will not be truly past this until we have a vaccine

 

Scientists could very well discover effective treatment before the vaccine which could at least make things significantly better in the mean time.

 

Who is talking about all that? I never watch until a time like this. All I am saying is THIS week, while I have watched, both sides have been equally terrible at being objective, but Fox hasnt really politicized it as much as they are just omiting the political things that CNN is saying. Perhaps before this week, I can't say, but this week. No. I don't see it...and I am not some Trumpy Faux news sheep.

 

Sure. I meant if their was a dem POTUS, the right would figure out a way to blame him for all of this.
It's like a GEICO commercial. "Politicians. It's what they do"

 

Today I learned that moderators can like your post twice (@tilly )

 

PLEASE let someone else speak at these news conferences.

 

I mean...I saw it first hand with Hurricane Florence. These news outlets now make vids showing the errors of the other.

Did Rather ever mention Jennings?

City, do you honestly feel CNN having Cuomo have his dad and brother on to circle bash the POTUS is news? Is that journalism?

It's laughable to try and paint me to either side of this. I will always say they are all crooked shrills for the almighty dollar.

 

It was just that good.

 

I think that happens if you click like, then accidentally delete the like and re-click it. (clumsy thumbs and all that,)