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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. gator7_5

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  2. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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  3. scamgtr

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    I wonder how many dead people it’s going to take before some people on here take this seriously
    1,000...10,000...100,000...1,000,000?

    Not everything is a deep state conspiracy or politicization of an issue.

    I truly feel sorry for some of you that see everything this way. This virus doesn’t care if you’re Democrat or Republican. If you think that all these people got together to create a police state...that’s just...nutty. I’m sorry, it’s just nutty. Virology doesn’t care about your libertarian sensibilities.

    The virus doesn’t sort based on ideology and it’s playing out in real time about how the different countries have handled it.

    For your own sake, read stuff that’s outside your silo. Draconian measures may be the only way to flatten the curve and save lives. If that impinges on your ability to be yourself for 8 weeks...then so be it. A sensible individual that cares about his community and the people around him or her, a good neighbor, might see the utility of personal sacrifice for the greater good.

    However, too many people have read Atlas Shrugged believing they are John Galt when they are nowhere near the genius protagonist created by Ayn Rand.

    Just no...spare me the freedom speech. You’re asked to live in the comfort of your home away from government and people and your only complaint is that they told you to stay there.

    This just smacks of my 8 year old son saying he doesn’t want to.

    It amazes me that so many people on this board simply don’t understand what they sound like.

    This country has become a place where everyone believes that they are special and that they are more important than anyone else no matter the situation. The idea of sacrifice to the commitment of freedom over the horizon has been completely lost on everyone.

    I’m not immune to this criticism, but at least I have the common sense to listen to the health professionals in this country instead of believing that it’s some grand conspiracy to rob me of my freedom.
     
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  4. tilly

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    That all sounds great until your 8 year old loses his house because you lost your job.

    Most of what you say is true...but much of the pushback is honest fairly placed fear.
     
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  5. docspor

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    Interesting. I just got through telling my 17 YO he could not go camping with his friends. An argument I used was that as infections go up more & more people will lose their jobs. This is a critical time to flatten the curve to PROTECT people & their livelihoods. Remember an ounce of prevention is not free, but it costs a helluva lot less than the alternative.
     
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  6. G8trGr8t

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    Dumbest desk clerk ever
     
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  7. RIP

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    San Fransisco is doing an Italy style lockdown. No movement outside of your house except for going to the doctor or grocery store.
     
  8. obgator

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    Yes, I live in San Mateo county and we just had a “shelter in place” order issued till April 7. Boy, it is going to be fun with three kids and a puppy :eek:
     
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  9. demosthenes

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    Not SF, it’s six entire counties.
     
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  10. RIP

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    True. Crazy times.
     
  11. G8trGr8t

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    Do you understand that you can infect others long before you show symptoms?
     
  12. demosthenes

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    Not trying to be persnickety, but I have a regional office and job sites in three of those counties so it’s consumed half my day.
     
  13. OklahomaGator

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    I can think of a lot of jobs that are essential, I am assuming they must go to work. I mean someone has to run the grocery store. Someone has to keep the electricity on. How are they defining essential jobs?
     
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  14. demosthenes

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    "Essential Businesses" apply to for-profit, non-profit and educational entities, and include the following:

    • Healthcare: Hospitals, clinics, dentists, pharmacies, and pharmaceutical and biotechnology companies.
    • Retail Food and Consumer Household Goods: Grocery stores, certified farmers markets, food banks and convenience stores engaged in the retail sale fo foods and household consumer products, including businesses that deliver groceries, goods, or services.
    • Infrastructure: Water, sewer, gas, and electrical operations; road, highway, and public transportation operations; internet and telecommunication operations.
    • Transportation: Airlines, taxis, public transportation and private transportation providers.
    • Restaurants: Restaurants and other facilities that prepare and serve food, including schools and entities that provide free food, but only for delivery or carry out, and businesses that deliver food.
    • Education: Public and private K-12 schools, colleges, and universities, but only for purposes of facilitating distance learning or performing essential functions, provided that Social Distancing Requirements are met to the greatest extent possible.
    • Social Services: Businesses that provide food, shelter, social services, and other necessities of life for economically disadvantaged or otherwise needy individuals.
    • News Outlets: Newspaper, television, radio and other media services.
    • Gasoline and Auto Stores: Gas stations and auto-supply, auto-repair, and related facilities.
    • Hardware Stores: Hardware stores.
    • Laundromats: Laundromats, drycleaners, and laundry service providers.
    • Homecare and Childcare: Home-based care for seniors, adults, or children and childcare services.
    • Banks: Banks and related financial institutions.
    • Shipping and Mailing: Businesses providing mailing and shipping services, including post office boxes.
    • Farming and Livestock: Food cultivation, including farming, livestock and fishing.
    • Construction: Public works construction and construction of housing (in particular affordable housing or housing for the homeless).
    • Service Providers: Plumbers, electricians, exterminators and other services providers that provide services necessary to maintain safety, sanitation, essential operation of residences, Essential Activities, and Essential Businesses.
    • Professional Service Providers: Professional services, such as legal or accounting services, when necessary to assist in compliance with legally mandated activities;
    • Business Supplies: Businesses that supply products needed for people to work from home.
     
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  15. altalias

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    France and Spain, listed banks, pharmacies and gas stations. Oddly two, I believe it was Italy and France, listed tobacco shops.
     
  16. obgator

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    For your reading pleasure:
    Shelter in Place FAQs | All of California in one County
     
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  17. altalias

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    I just found it again.


    It will not, Mr Philippe said, affect essential businesses which he listed as food shops, chemists, banks, tobacco shops and petrol stations.
     
  18. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    So pretty much everything?
     
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  19. mutz87

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    Can't smoke em if you don't got em
     
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  20. obgator

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    On a related note, CA FTB has extended the filing of state income tax by 2 months for people affected by covid-19. Will IRS follow suit?