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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. mutz87

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    I think to some extent health authorities don't want to set any unnecessary expectations given the slowness of science/challenges and the potential blowback if they promise earlier, but it would be a welcome surprise if some entity is somehow able to get a vaccine out to the public much quicker than expected.
     
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  2. NavyGator93

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    “Mr. Madison, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
     
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  3. tilly

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    That was some good info, but who gets the common cold 2-4 times a year? Certainly not the 5 people in my house.
    This is why trusting these extreme case numbers is hard to do.
     
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  4. gatordavisl

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    Down 3,000 points today. :(

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  6. tilly

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    Same here.
     
  7. NavyGator93

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    Apparently Kroger was out of a lot of the crap food but produce was topped off. Odd.
     
  8. tilly

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    Not that it makes the number insignificant. I think that is closer to 20 hours. It resets around 8pm EST (GMT-0) I believe.
     
  9. MaceoP

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    Full on panic in the public re the virus is manifesting itself in the financial markets. In many respects, the panic is welcome because if people take this virus seriously out of fear, and aren't complacent about it, we have a much better chance of containing and delaying the onset of this virus. Time is an ally to all of us, if we are all diligent. As Dr. Fauci continuously states, "we have to flatten the curve" Next year at this time I suspect we will have a vaccine and treatment.
     
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  10. g8trjax

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    I say test every day, can't be too careful. You may be negative today but tomorrow...? ;)
     
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  11. duchen

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    Explain Italy. And why we are different.
     
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  12. tilly

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    I think an obvious difference is age of population and population density.
    An older populace stacked on top of each other is a goldmine for this virus.
     
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  13. duchen

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    Lots of places here where older people are stacked on top of each other. We lag behind them in the curve. And, the attempts to minimize risk factors by the poster I replied to is not explained by your answer.
     
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  14. gator_fever

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    We are about the most equipped in the whole world with ICU bed capacity per capita. I bet Italy doesn't score too well there and their system isnt that great except for being socialized I hear. I also think Italy's actions despite a flight ban that just rerouted people mostly was set up for a big hit with their China connections.

    Germany seems to be the exact opposite as far as deaths over there.

    I hear Italy has a lot of 30 and 40 somethings living with elders also even worse than us.
     
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  15. mdgator05

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    I'd be surprised if I don't get 2 colds a year. I got 4 straight this year from late November through Early January. Average adult is apparently 2-3 times per year with children ranging higher.
     
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  16. rivergator

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    More than 3,000 passengers were on a cruise ship with a passenger who tested positive for coronavirus. Even after the company and health officials knew of the diagnosis, the passengers were allowed to leave without being tested. Many went directly to the airport and flew home.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/bu...-xreEdMGDn8V2C5Gz3iBQiiSnqYdjF3bZqlPN2hJnyC20
     
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  17. BLING

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    South Korea is the one to look at, since they were testing just about everybody that possibly came in contact. BUT, because they were testing everybody, they got it in control more efficiently. We have been testing almost nobody, even people showing symptoms.


    It’s literally like they are trying to kill as many as possible. This is what started the San Francisco area outbreaks weeks ago. Who in the actual f&)$ is handling these decisions around disembarking the cruise ships and the airports?
     
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  18. RealGatorFan

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    But if this continues, the markets that is, it won't matter. Remember what I said about 80 million jobs at risk over the weekend? CNN finally caught up to me:

    More than half of American jobs are at risk because of coronavirus - CNN

    Keep in mind the Great Recession lost roughly 8 million jobs. If this continues, it'll take a $5T bailout. Small business fared well during the Great Recession because they could still do business. This virus is shutting down businesses resulting in $0 revenue. Now my wife can't turn around and tell her employees they will get paid if they are home for 2 weeks. She has handled the flu the best she could by shifting hours and people around, and at most roughly 60% of her workers had the flu at some point. But she was open for business and didn't see any losses. People even got raises this year. There is no revenue if there isn't anyone there taking and filling orders. I think she has enough to make it through one payroll before she has to make drastic cuts, not sure what that will mean until the dust settles in a couple of weeks. We are just 2 days away from a nationwide shutdown of all businesses. Imagine a doctor stopping the heart of his patient and then later on starting it back up. That's our economy. It may never come back. Not the year to stop raising chickens:)

    You better have your food and medications NOW. It's too late to stock up and don't rely on restaurants because even they are still open, they are only handling takeout...for now:

    Coronavirus live updates: Jefferson County takes 'drastic' steps ordering closures for schools, care centers, bars, restaurants
     
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  19. mdgator05

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    Over 1,000 new cases already today and 18 deaths.
     
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  20. GatorNorth

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    My reading of that was since there are 200 strains of rhinovirus (common cold) many of them could be largely asymptomatic, or a slight stuffy nose that's hardly noticed.

    Who knew 60 million people had H1N1? I certainly didn't. We certainly didn't test that many people in 2009.

    So I suspect there will be 10's of million folks in the US with some largely asymptomatic form of this. It's who THEY infect that's almost the whole problem.

    Unlike others, I hardly think the "crazed lefties" at the CDC is weaponizing this against Trump (and I'm not saying you are either); that's largely nonsensical butt-hurt talk b/c POTUS was slow on the uptake here past the Chinese border limitations.

    Just my $0.02
     
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